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Which heroes are the most popular/admired by the public in-universe?

Marvel

Captain America
The Fantastic 4 (all of them, maybe not Thing due to his monstrous appearance?)

DC

Superman
Wonder Woman





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Thor apparently is worshipped in a lot of planets across the whole universe, i'd say he is a contender for most famed in universe at Marvel. But at the same time, the Avengers as a whole are just as widely known as a threat by most Galactic empires by now...

At Dc it s pretty hard to contend with Superman in a matter of fame, but perhaps Wonder Woman has had better press releases at times; i concur though that the green lantern are more likely known in the wider cosmos, if not by name at least as a role...


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Even though the comics focus on EARTH. Each Universe is HUUUUUUUGE. Marvel especially has well established multi Galaxy spanning empires (Shiar, Skrull, Kree, Brood, and now Chitauri).

In both DC and Marvel, Earth is a singularly odd planet that can barely get past the moon but with inhabitants that are surprisingly among the most powerful in their entire universes. Earth's heroes (in each universe) have defeated universal level threats that the largest empires cannot. And yet, when earth-based heroes (even Superman) travel the stars, the common peoples among Alien races don't have a clue who they are. So most popular in their respective universe? Unlikely.

My votes for this is based on who would be the most recognizable person in each respective universe no matter where in the Universe they would go.

Marvel: Silver Surfer would be the most recognizable/feared as he probably still has the reputation as working for Galactus. Second place would be Gladiator as a ruler of the Shiar empire and originally, its greatest hero. One could argue that Richard Rider NOVA would be extremely recognizable and admired throughout the universe because of his efforts leading the Annihilation War. That dude shouldn't be able to go anywhere without people buying him drinks.

DC: I would say Hal Jordan or Kilowog Green Lanterns would be universally known and respected. The Green Lantern Core is the number one peacekeeping force in the DCU and they are among the top of their elite leaders instrumental in every one of their biggest victories. The uniform alone makes them more recognizable then all the earth based heroes combined outside of our solar system.


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    Even though the comics focus on EARTH. Each Universe is HUUUUUUUGE. Marvel especially has well established multi Galaxy spanning empires (Shiar, Skrull, Kree, Brood, and now Chitauri).



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    In both DC and Marvel, Earth is a singularly odd planet that can barely get past the moon but with inhabitants that are surprisingly among the most powerful in their entire universes. Earth's heroes (in each universe) have defeated universal level threats that the largest empires cannot. And yet, when earth-based heroes (even Superman) travel the stars, the common peoples among Alien races don't have a clue who they are. So most popular in their respective universe? Unlikely.



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    My votes for this is based on who would be the most recognizable person in each respective universe no matter where in the Universe they would go.



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    Marvel: Silver Surfer would be the most recognizable/feared as he probably still has the reputation as working for Galactus. Second place would be Gladiator as a ruler of the Shiar empire and originally, its greatest hero. One could argue that Richard Rider NOVA would be extremely recognizable and admired throughout the universe because of his efforts leading the Annihilation War. That dude shouldn't be able to go anywhere without people buying him drinks.


I would think Reed Richards has a big rep off of earth. He's stopped Galactus numerous times (and went on trial that time he saved him). Most of the universe would look down on earth but I imagine Reed's name is known to aliens with access to information about other worlds. Like I bet there's a lot of talk about him being one of the good earthlings the other aliens wouldn't mind living next door. Plus he's not as dumb as other earthlings.



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    DC: I would say Hal Jordan or Kilowog Green Lanterns would be universally known and respected. The Green Lantern Core is the number one peacekeeping force in the DCU and they are among the top of their elite leaders instrumental in every one of their biggest victories. The uniform alone makes them more recognizable then all the earth based heroes combined outside of our solar system.


I've always wanted an Elseworlds story where the Legion of Super Heroes took their inspiration from Bruce not Clark. Like the Batman is so feared and respected throughout the galaxy a thousand years later an annoying band of teenagers have gathered together to be Batmen. Batmen are the security force for the galaxy and no criminal is sure if there is just the one guy who is everywhere or if it's a whole army.





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Bk Ray

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I always thought of him as being seen as an urban myth.

The bright lights of the JLA don't suit his character.





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    Quote:
    Thor apparently is worshipped in a lot of planets across the whole universe, i'd say he is a contender for most famed in universe at Marvel. But at the same time, the Avengers as a whole are just as widely known as a threat by most Galactic empires by now...

I agree Thor is well know outside of Earth and I'll say Asgardians are known outside of Earth having encountered many worlds. The Earth is well known within its local galaxy group having defeating many galactic empires from conquering Earth. Some well known characters are not good but have terrible reputations. Thanos and Galactus with his heralds come to mind as all are feared throughout the cosmos. Some empires hate Earth because a lot of beings that effect the cosmos come from Earth or have Earth origins. 


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    At DC it s pretty hard to contend with Superman in a matter of fame, but perhaps Wonder Woman has had better press releases at times; i concur though that the green lantern are more likely known in the wider cosmos, if not by name at least as a role...
 

I think DC Earth is somewhat like Marvel with the JLA being known as spoilers for would be conquers or galactic empires thinking on taking Earth as a prize. Superman should be well known throughout the cosmos. The Lanterns should be the most known throughout the cosmos and like Marvel a few bad guys are also well known in the cosmos and Darkseid and his empire comes to mind. 




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in the US for Marvel, Captain America, and maybe worldwide...he seems to have a good reputation. There was a time when Red Guardian may have been even more popular, as the Soviet version of Cap, and during the Cold War he may have been more popular.

The only mutant that might make the list is Dazzler, at least at the peak of her fame...popular not so much for being as superhero

Maybe Reed Richards (I don't think the other FF members are as popular).

Kevin Masterson during the Defalco run seemed to be a big fan of Thor...not sure how typical that was for kids though, so maybe he's a candidate.

If you factor in all the stories from mythology, Hercules might actually make the cut, and the list. In an old Avengers issue, he was talking to kids in central park who seemed to be big fans, except the one kid who was more of a Thor fan....

In DC its certainly Superman at the top, and you're right, Wonder Woman is probably #2. For a time, locally, Booster Gold was pretty popular, but that passed a LONG time ago.

Judging from DOS, Guy Gardner was popular with a certain segment of the population (teenage, rebellious boys who thought he was bad a#$), but I have a hard time thinking of anyone else high profile enough....Flash had a notoriously good reputation locally, but not sure how it was globally


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but I think he's known, but probably viewed positively and negatively by certain sections of the population. Superman is more universally popular by a wide margin IMO


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though I think its likely Surfer is more reviled despite his heroism in the current age, because he was a herald for Galactus for so long....

But, Gladiator is probably at or near the top of the list.

Thor moves up, because in Asgard and other mystical realms he's well known and respected.

Maybe Dr. Strange is bumped as well.

Maybe even some guys like Ronan, Super Skrull, etc...heroes (at times) of their respective empires.

If Sakaar wasn't destroyed, that would have bumped Hulk, as he would have a whole planet + Jarella's microverse behind him.

In DC, you're right, Superman has an interstellar rep (as referenced by Massacre in post crisis continuity), as does Wonder Woman (there was a LONG period of her off planet in early post crisis continuity). Green lanterns in general would be up there, you're right.

How about Orion...how many races know of the heroes of the New gods and revere them?

How populous is Apokalips, Darkseid could legitimately qualify, even as he's reviled everywhere else....


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    If you factor in all the stories from mythology, Hercules might actually make the cut, and the list. In an old Avengers issue, he was talking to kids in central park who seemed to be big fans, except the one kid who was more of a Thor fan....


That was actually Thor #356, which is a great story.




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Would say that Spiderman makes the list in Marvel, and that Superman is the top one in DC, as the general public and even the super villains know him as being one who plays fair and is the "Blue boy scout"


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Superman known and respected throughout entire DCU...


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and a lot of people thought he was a menace


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Bk Ray

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it was also mentioned, that 'sticking to walls and looking weird' made some think he was a mutant.





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    it was also mentioned, that 'sticking to walls and looking weird' made some think he was a mutant.


I always wondered if the average New Yorker in the Marvel universe thought the Daily Bugle was something like Fox News. Like did everyone hate Spider-Man because they believed the bugle or did sensible people think Daily Bugle readers were dumb and/or nuts?

I'm curious how mainstream the Bugle really was.





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Some people believed the Bugle, others had heard through word of mouth he was a great guy.





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