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Please give me your reasons as to who would have won this fight?




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Braugi


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Loki IS more versatile and smarter though, so if I had to pick, I'd pick him to win, but I think they're very competitive with each other overall.



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zvelf


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Firelord probably has more raw power than Loki, at least on average, but Loki has overall superior combat effectiveness by which I mean he's far smarter and can outwit Firelord, probably with extensive use of illusions and take a majority.



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Visitor


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    Loki IS more versatile and smarter though, so if I had to pick, I'd pick him to win, but I think they're very competitive with each other overall.


I agree but one question here please. It seems to me, the writer implied, if Loki hadn't been caught off guard by Firelord's unexpected attack, his spell would have quickly ended the fight?

Or do you have another interpretation of this?




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bd2999


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Firelord is more powerful, Loki depends on the version a little bit but in a pure fight it is Firelord's to lose. Loki will need to rely on illusions and his normal wordplay angles in addition to magic to keep things close for a bit.

I would edge Firelord.




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    Firelord is more powerful, Loki depends on the version a little bit but in a pure fight it is Firelord's to lose. Loki will need to rely on illusions and his normal wordplay angles in addition to magic to keep things close for a bit.



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    I would edge Firelord.


Thanks for the opposite viewpoint here. I can't argue it too much, that's for sure, which is why I posted this fight.

Although I've edged Loki because of his cunning and what the writer implied in this story (Loki's spells could imprison Firelord and they did the same to Thor in this tale), I can see Firelord winning because he's fought Thor to a stalemate before and has taken down the Silver Surfer in the past and that's pretty darn impressive.




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makkari1


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    Please give me your reasons as to who would have won this fight?
Loki should win because he is more versatile and I can't think of a thing Fire Lord can throw at him that Loki can't overcome and the other way I can't see Fir Lord overcoming Loki's spells.



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bd2999


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It really depends on the situation more than anything for Loki. If there is prep into the situation than I think Loki could be in it. His magic is formidable but all the physical advantages are going to be with Firelord.

At least in my view.

Pending the version of Loki, magic is also variable. As some are weaker than others or lack magic. Others are very powerful at it.




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