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Bk Ray

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Sometimes, I come across as a moaning git.

Both our countries have had a hit from the hard right with leaving the EU, electing Trump.

However despite this and the increasing terrorist attacks from scummy extremist muslims, things like the Ariana Grande concert shows the true strength in the relations between both countries and refusal to buckle.

Grande did an amazing thing on Sunday.



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Rehzon


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In 2011 for 6 months , the Obama administration refused visa requests from Muslim countries for a short time and it was done through Immigration, ABC and NbC did not discuss this until 2013, because Administration didn't disclose it as Trump has. Trump is in trouble for telling us,and his is for 3 months not six like Obama's.


Just sayin'...



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Comicguy1


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My parents are going to Paris in two months as well. I am very worried about them.


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Thurisaz


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    Sometimes, I come across as a moaning git.



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    Both our countries have had a hit from the hard right with leaving the EU, electing Trump.



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    However despite this and the increasing terrorist attacks from scummy extremist muslims, things like the Ariana Grande concert shows the true strength in the relations between both countries and refusal to buckle.



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    Grande did an amazing thing on Sunday.


I suppose. Certainly it was the right thing to do and the money goes to a good cause. But....the vapid, inane twitterings of UK and US pop stars mumbling about the most shallow of topics is hardly the defiant front the West should be putting forth. I'd have preferred some real musicians and artists told the kids to take a seat and put on an actual show with performances echoing the pillars of freedom and self expression instead of songs about butts and money and also butts. But that's just me.






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zvelf


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    In 2011 for 6 months , the Obama administration refused visa requests from Muslim countries for a short time and it was done through Immigration, ABC and NbC did not discuss this until 2013, because Administration didn't disclose it as Trump has. Trump is in trouble for telling us,and his is for 3 months not six like Obama's.



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    Just sayin'...


I can't remember whether ABC and NBC covered it, but it was covered critically by the mainstream news media, and there were significant differences between what Obama did and what Trump wants to do:

http://www.snopes.com/president-obama-ban-muslims-2011/




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The Black Guardian

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Never particularly been a fan of Grande (certainly not in her demo), and she seems to me to be about as irritating a person as her brother (couldn't stand him on Big Brother), but what she and her team pulled off so quickly was amazing. Kudos to them.


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Unstable Molecule


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I hated her at first, since she seemed to be just a product of marketing that we were supposed to love. I warmed up on her a bit when she was on SNL. She actually does have a pretty good voice, even if I don't care for her style of music. And I agree that her brother was very irritating (see my earlier comments about the marketing machine).

But now I'm a fan of her as a person. Her career was a casualty of an ugly attack that was way beyond her control (and though her career isn't even a consideration considering that young people died - still.). And her response on behalf of the families was just outstanding. She is classy and big-hearted, and I wish her every success. Ditto to all the artists who joined her during that concert.




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The Black Guardian

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I'm till sorta stuck on that licking the donut and screaming, "I hate America." That was only two years ago. I still pretty much think this recent concert was nothing but marketing for her.


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