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Comicguy1


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I remember buying the first issue when it came out, waaaayyyyy back in the 90's (Along with Spider-Man and Ravager 2099.), but I'm really interested in reading this because Warren Ellis wrote this. I read/heard that he had a pretty serious take on the character, and it sounds interesting. I also read that he basically wrote a conclusion for Doom (I think that Unthinkable would have served as a last final storyline.). Was the series really good, or does it read too "90's"? Can I get it in a trade paperback? I would appreciate any feedback regarding this series, and any recommended issues. Thank You.


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Reverend Meteor


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    I remember buying the first issue when it came out, waaaayyyyy back in the 90's (Along with Spider-Man and Ravager 2099.), but I'm really interested in reading this because Warren Ellis wrote this. I read/heard that he had a pretty serious take on the character, and it sounds interesting. I also read that he basically wrote a conclusion for Doom (I think that Unthinkable would have served as a last final storyline.). Was the series really good, or does it read too "90's"? Can I get it in a trade paperback? I would appreciate any feedback regarding this series, and any recommended issues. Thank You.


I thought a lot of it was awful but I thought the story where he took over America was interesting.



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Grey Gargoyle


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I liked John Francis Moore's X-Men 2099 immensely. But I couldn't get into the Doom 2099 stuff...a lot of it involved Doom in virtual reality/cyberspace. I hate stories about that crap.



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Iron Maiden 

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Some of the early issues did involve cyberspace and virtual reality because it was very en vogue at the time. I think the first time I ever heard the term blue tooth might have been in one of Warren Ellis's comics. Don't recall if it came up in Doom 2099 or later in something else.

There were other storylines in the J.F. Moore comics and it was mostly about Doom's identity. Was it the same Victor Von Doom who went to university with Ben and Reed or someone or something else? It all came to a head when Moore handed off the plot to Warren Ellis in #24-25.

I think Moore gave Doom an interesting cast of characters which included his partner in infamy and mistress Margaretta. Then there was Fortune, a descendant of Doom's faithful Boris and also a member of Doom's Zefiro tribe. Moore was the first to name it as I recall.

The One Nation Under Doom was probably the arc that most fans remember and IMO it was well done with the premise being that Doom was a better option than the corrupt megacorps that were pulling the strings of the government.

The Ellis issues are the only ones that were collected into one volume that came out several years ago.


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    Some of the early issues did involve cyberspace and virtual reality because it was very en vogue at the time. I think the first time I ever heard the term blue tooth might have been in one of Warren Ellis's comics. Don't recall if it came up in Doom 2099 or later in something else.



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    There were other storylines in the J.F. Moore comics and it was mostly about Doom's identity. Was it the same Victor Von Doom who went to university with Ben and Reed or someone or something else? It all came to a head when Moore handed off the plot to Warren Ellis in #24-25.



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    I think Moore gave Doom an interesting cast of characters which included his partner in infamy and mistress Margaretta. Then there was Fortune, a descendant of Doom's faithful Boris and also a member of Doom's Zefiro tribe. Moore was the first to name it as I recall.



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    The One Nation Under Doom was probably the arc that most fans remember and IMO it was well done with the premise being that Doom was a better option than the corrupt megacorps that were pulling the strings of the government.


I liked the little bit of Doom we saw in X-Men 2099. From the issues I read Doom was the best thing that happened to the mutants. He gave them their own city.



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    The Ellis issues are the only ones that were collected into one volume that came out several years ago.






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    I liked the little bit of Doom we saw in X-Men 2099. From the issues I read Doom was the best thing that happened to the mutants. He gave them their own city.


Yes, there were some definite improvements in his short reign. His alliance with Wakanda enabled him to borrow some of their tech to reduce air pollution in the U.S. He made internet access, which IIRC were called dive booths, a right for all. There was a one shot special that printed a multipage Doom manifesto. It's included in the TPB and there are several sections about mutant rights I believe. I should scan that in one day. Ellis took that one nugget of info in Doom's origin where he briefly led a sort of Latverian resistance against the aristocrats and built on that aspect in Doom 2099.




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