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Grey Gargoyle


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When you think about it, he was Marvel's first villain and, right from the start, Stan Lee & Jack Kirby imagined a great character :

- He controls giant monsters ! He and his monsters fill the gap between the Monster Age & the Marvel Age, just like the Thing & Hulk.

- He is the first sympathetic Marvel villain (not counting Namor). He is a misunderstood outcast with a tragic past. Like the Phantom of the Opera, he hides in darkness because of his ugliness. He has been portrayed as a complex character since his first appearance, way before Dr. Doom & Magneto. Sometimes, he initiates attacks on the surface world but, other times, he only tries to protect his kingdom from harm.

- He is the first "animal-totem" Marvel character, before Spider-Man, Chameleon, Vulture, Doctor Octopus, the Owl, the Eel, the Beetle, Captain Barracuda, the Fox, Black Panther ... and so many others.

- He is the first "M" villain, before Miracle Man, Magneto, Molecule Man, Mastermind, Maximus, Mentallo ... and so many others. Of course, like so many Marvel characters, he has an alliterative name.

- Before Daredevil, he is the first Marvel character with a radar sense and, before Alicia & Matt Murdock, he is the first (nearly) blind Marvel character. Actually, he isn't really blind but his eyes can't stand light. Just like Cyclops, he has to keep his glasses on (in his case, to protect his eyes from light). Just like Daredevil & Kingpin, he carries a walking stick that conceals hidden tools & weapons.

- He is the first Marvel villain who is at the same time a scientific genius, a good fighter and a political leader. He is also the first Marvel character (not counting Namor) who is the ruler of an exotic kingdom (before Dr. Doom, Black Bolt, Black Panther ...).

- He might be the first of the FF's Paracelsian elemental characters : Mole Man might represent the Earth Gnome, Dragon Man might represent the Fire Salamander, Air-Walker might represent the Air Sylph and Lady Dorma might represent the Water Undine.

- Although most people are not aware of this, he might be one of the most powerful villains on Marvel Earth. He is a scientific genius. He has an army of minions and giant monsters. he might be the richest man on Earth thanks to his direct access to huge mineral resources (for example, the Valley of Diamonds). He can trigger earthquakes around the world. He might still know where the Fountain of Youth is.


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Richard


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I found this thread interesting, but couldn't think of anything to say in reply. But I felt bad that no one had replied, so here you go.



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Jim Mc


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I'm up and down on the Mole Man. He has huge potential but has seldom realized it. It hasn't helped that he quickly competed with other "underworld" villains. He'll always be memorable as being the FF's first foe.

Was there some sort of "Underworld Wars" story in a series of 90's annuals? They should make Moley the main guy down there to give him more cred. Moloids have evolved too. They were smart in Hickman's run and in Inhumans there was a huge on on steroids that was fighting for sport.




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Grey Gargoyle


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    Quote:
    I found this thread interesting, but couldn't think of anything to say in reply. But I felt bad that no one had replied, so here you go.


Many thanks. \:\-\)

Unfortunately, my message was too centered on providing my own comments and I should have thought to be more opened to others' suggestions when I wrote it. It is a mistake that I often make. \:\-\(

IMO, it would be easy to imagine new stories about the Mole Man & Subterranea.

Even a limited series in the spirit of Penguin Triumphant, Joker's Asylum Penguin and Penguin Pain & Prejudice. \:\-\)





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Grey Gargoyle


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    It hasn't helped that he quickly competed with other "underworld" villains


Indeed, I think that Mole Man is superior to Tyrannus & Kala because he has transformed himself into a true creature of the underworld.

On the contrary, Tyrannus & Kala are only people of the past wo rule underground kingdoms.

Gor-Tok might be more dangerous but Mole Man is the master of giant monsters and it makes him more powerful than Tyrannus, Kala & Gor-Tok.

The Lava Men are well-adapted to the underworld and they are powerful but their technological level is far below the one of the Moloids' army.

In his very first appearance, Mole Man also showed that he had no problem dealing with atomic weapons.

So, if there should be an emperor among the rulers of Subterranea, I would easily choose Mole Man.


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    Was there some sort of "Underworld Wars" story in a series of 90's annuals?

I don't remember reading it but it is highly possible.
"Mole Man vs Tyrannus" has been a recurring conflict since Tales to Astonish #80 (1966).
http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Tales_to_Astonish_Vol_1_80
(In this issue written by Stan Lee & pencilled by Jack Kirby, Mole Man stole the Fountain of Youth from Tyrannus !!!)


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    He'll always be memorable as being the FF's first foe.

Indeed, I agree.

I also think that Stan Lee wanted to use this villain a lot, not only as a FF foe but also in other books (Avengers, Iron Man, Hulk ...).

More recently, Mole Mas was even engaged to Aunt May, of all people, in the Spider-Man Newspaper Strip !!!


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