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For some odd reason, I cannot reply to the original post so here is my reply here.

Punisher also kills reformed criminals who have turned their lives around. See Civil War where he guns down two of them just before Captain America gives Frank a much deserved beat down for doing that. Apparently, Frank doesn't believe in second chances or mercy.

It's interesting that a hero/villain performs one amazing feat, or use a power they haven't used for 20+ years, and that automatically propels them to a high status despite scans and evidence to the contrary. I don't know what is worse, selective feat picking that has only been done once or twice 20, or more, years ago or ignoring evidence from scans or the lack thereof. We need to stop putting our favorite heroes/villains on pedestals and start putting them where they really belong. But it's evident that people never will because they would rather accuse others of cherry picking feats, when they don't, and being 'morally superior' when they aren't. I guess being honest and as fair as possible only opens one up to being the target of childish accusations and fault finding by those who insist on acting petty and childish. What happened to a good debate between two civil, mature, adults?
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Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
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Early in his ongoing titles - especially the War Journal series - Frank had a period where he displayed a bit more of a soft edge towards criminals if they were especially young, misguided or could have been of use to him. He also made greater use of non-lethal weaponry including rubber 'mercy' bullets.

Since this period Frank has been much harder on the criminal element for the most part and will almost always dispense lethal justice, although there has still been the odd case of him sparing a crook who could be an asset.

He also became psychologically unhinged and increasingly obsessed to the point that his partner Micro saw fit to imprison Frank and then replace him with a new, more moderate, Punisher - Carlos Cruz. When Frank escaped he went on a further rampage that saw him seek to kill Micro for essentially doing what he thought was right and decent - and he would have done so if not for the fact that someone else beat him to it.

After this there was a period of further psychological issues, including Frank being brainwashed into killing Nick Fury (later proven to be a LMD). After recovering he actually joined the mob with the intention of changing and influencing it from the inside and showed remarkable restraint in not killing absolutely everyone despite being in the midst of an entire organisation of criminals.

Suicide followed shortly after this, and Frank was subsequently resurrected as a justice-dispensing angel of death in a short-live period.

A further relaunch followed in the late 90's with Garth Ennis Marvel Knights run, and from then and in pretty every other subsequent relaunch (there have been several) it has been fairly consistant that if you cross paths with the Punisher you may as well kiss your ass goodbye.

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