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But in the Marvel Universe there's a choice between death and life. Mar-Vell's even been given it before. He basically chose to ignore helping people. Some hero. Even on his deathbed he was choosing the wimps way. It was anything but heroic and anything but inspiring.


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    But in the Marvel Universe there's a choice between death and life. Mar-Vell's even been given it before. He basically chose to ignore helping people. Some hero. Even on his deathbed he was choosing the wimps way. It was anything but heroic and anything but inspiring.


Hey he did his time on the corporeal plane. Let other people do the work.

I think it's silly to make him out to be a bad guy because he wants to stay dead.





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I tend to see it as the other way around. The afterlife is the prison. In the Marvel Multiverse, the living universe is where everything happens and where the ultimate fate of everything is decided. The afterlife is where spirits go to be nothing, inconsequential, and worthless.

I'm not making him to be the bad guy. He's doing that by himself. By staying dead, he's giving the finger to anyone he ever cared about. They often say heroes are the people that run towards danger while others flee. By staying dead he is fleeing, and forfeits his hero-ship. He is weak. He's a coward.

And this started before he even died. Whenever I think back on the Death of Mar-Vell, I'm reminded of the Dylan Thomas poem about going gently into that good night. Well, he did. He should have been raging against the dying of the light. And he should be still raging.

To throw another heroic quote out there: "I only regret that I have but one life to lose for [insert anything here]." In the Marvel Multiverse, you don't have just one life. So you're damned for staying dead. And you deserve that damnation.

But I don't hold Mar-Vell totally accountable, because I tend to see Marvel's afterlives as one huge mindscrew that exists only to manipulate the living.


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It also reminds me of when in Dragonball Z, Goku is killed (again) in the Cell Saga but he rejects the wish of the dragonballs to be brought back.

He basically left the fate of earth and the cosmos in the hands of Gohan, plus his second son, plus trunks both of whom were not really trained yet, plus Piccolo and Krillin.

When Goku came to visit them and went SS3 to buy them time to learn the fusion dance, he finally had it pointed out to him what an idiot he was for leaving Earth's defense in the hands of kids.

Marv staying dead is leaving the cosmos and Earth in the defense of others, some of whom aren't quite up to the task, and some who had to rise to the occasion and take over for him such as his replacement: Quasar, his son Genis though that did kind of backfire, and then Richard Ryder/Nova finally ups his game in Annihilation.

Now after years of being lost Ryder is back and appears to be getting the Nova corp slowly rebuilt and seeking his younger brother but is he up to the task of protecting the cosmos yet again?

Thanos, Thane and many other cosmic threats are out there.


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