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Had to do this thread because one of my very favorite villains - Titania - was created in 1984 by Jim Shooter and Mike Zeck during The Secret Wars.

Titania has been on my mind due to the fascinating Black Bolt comic currently on the shelves. She's become an important supporting character for the time being.

She's tough, she seems to have some sort of conscience and some sort of empathy, and she and the Absorbing Man were always portrayed as being genuinely, fiercely, wholeheartedly in love. She's a lower tier villain who apparently doesn't do too well in the money department, which is a quandary to me, as I would think any supervillain would either be (a) in jail or else (b) rich. If you get away with the crime, why wouldn't you be rich? She must get stiffed now and then by the masterminds who employ her. Either that or she has a gambling problem or just a spending problem in general.

Any way, she is easily in my top ten of favorite villains, regardless of tier. I will buy a comic simply because she's in it. She's awesome.

Who are your picks for "best" or "favorite" or "most charismatic" villains created in the 80s?







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Nota Bene : you'll notice that there are more choices in the 1980s. \:\-\)

(John Byrne & Chris Claremont were clearly influenced by the Avengers TV series.




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(NB : he was much smarter when he first appeared)




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(NB : a lot of pirate boots in the 1980s !
Perhaps, many rogues wanted to look like Captain America ?)

He was the replacement of the Green Goblin but, back then, I think that he was much cooler than the 1st Goblin !





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Just comics or movies too? Most of these movie villains eventually made it to comics, maybe all of them. Just some favorites of mine.

1980's Empire Strikes Back gave us Emperor Palpatine. He may not have done too much in Empire and Jedi except a lot of scowling at the end, but the much-maligned prequels, crappy as they were, really cemented him as the MVP of the Star Wars hexology. As Sidious he commands the Trade Federation, Droid factory and Sith to create a threat against the Republic. As Palpatine he uses that threat as an excuse to get elected to higher and higher ranks of power, curtails personal freedoms in the name of security, and names himself galactic Emperor. Sidious commands a droid army, Palpatine commands a clone army, they go to war and in the melee he assassinates the entire Jedi order, the only real threat against him. The trilogy closes with the villain winning and ruling the galaxy for the next 15 years! I don't normally praise anything from the prequels but he had a great arc. or should I say plan.

1980 - Pamela and Jason Voorhees

1981 - Hannibal Lecter (Red Dragon novel)

1982 - MCP (Tron)

1984 - The Terminator and SkyNet. Gremlins (and Stripe). Freddy Krueger. Emilio Lizardo/Lord John Whorfin (Buckaroo Banzai).

1986 - The Kurgan (Highlander), Chop Top (Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2)

1987 - Predator, Q (Star Trek TNG), Pinhead (Hellraiser)

1988 - Chucky (Child's Play)

1989 - Borg (Star Trek TNG)


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    1980's Empire Strikes Back gave us Emperor Palpatine. He may not have done too much in Empire and Jedi except a lot of scowling at the end, but the much-maligned prequels, crappy as they were, really cemented him as the MVP of the Star Wars hexology. As Sidious he commands the Trade Federation, Droid factory and Sith to create a threat against the Republic. As Palpatine he uses that threat as an excuse to get elected to higher and higher ranks of power, curtails personal freedoms in the name of security, and names himself galactic Emperor. Sidious commands a droid army, Palpatine commands a clone army, they go to war and in the melee he assassinates the entire Jedi order, the only real threat against him. The trilogy closes with the villain winning and ruling the galaxy for the next 15 years! I don't normally praise anything from the prequels but he had a great arc. or should I say plan.


Yup. Great villain thanks to the prequels. The only good thing about them, aside from the one cool scene where Yoda fights.


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    1980 - Pamela and Jason Voorhees



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    1981 - Hannibal Lecter (Red Dragon novel)


Oh absolutely. Without a doubt.


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    1982 - MCP (Tron)



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    1984 - The Terminator and SkyNet. Gremlins (and Stripe). Freddy Krueger. Emilio Lizardo/Lord John Whorfin (Buckaroo Banzai).



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    1986 - The Kurgan (Highlander)


Yup.


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    Chop Top (Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2)



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    1987 - Predator, Q (Star Trek TNG), Pinhead (Hellraiser)



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    1988 - Chucky (Child's Play)



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    1989 - Borg (Star Trek TNG)


Yup. I only really liked TNG when the Borg were involved.






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1983


1985


1986



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This was indeed the best replacement for Norman.

Someone picks up his legacy, but is more of a thinker and is careful about studying all of Osborn's secrets including the goblin serum so that he avoids osborns' errors.

The only regret or sad part of this is that Stern left the book before unmasking his creation, thus leading Marvel to do the Ned Leeds junk.


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Hobgoblin's use of dupes was both cool and infuriating. It was cool because it made so much sense. Why put yourself in danger when you can put Lefty Donovan, Ned Leeds or Flash Thompson in the crosshairs? It makes perfect sense for the smart, sophisticated super-villain. However, it's so unsatisfying when you know it's a second-rate Hobgoblin. On the other hand, this helped make issues like ASM 249,250 & 251 so great, when there was a Spidey vs real Hobgoblin showdown!


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Sorry, there was no cartoon, I misled you. All the cartoons you listed were based on toy lines. Starriors was a toy line which came with packed-in mini comics and they later got a 4-issue comic from Marvel.



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yes Kingsley was smart to use dupes in his place for certain situations.

I have no doubt that it was Kingsley that battled Spiderman.

It is a shame in a way though that brainwashed duplicates are now a main trope of the character. Anytime a Hobgoblin is killed there is always the chance it wasn't Roderick Kingsley.

He even sent his twin brother dressed as Hobgoblin to scope things out before his big comeback only to have his brother killed by Phil Urich/Fake Hobgoblin. I knew that would be the case at the time as Hobgoblin was punked rather easily by Urich, just how Ned Leeds was taken down too easily by the assassins.

Hobgoblin though will always stand as a shining example of why when a great mystery character is created, that the identity of said character must be revealed ONLY by the character's creator and no one else.


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Many thanks for the explanation. \:\-\)

I didn't know about them. It sounds interesting.


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