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Alexthor2112


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Hello there! New to posting on the board but I do keep an eye on it to see what people are talking about with regards to Thor. I saw this artwork by Daniel Acuna in a torrent I downloaded today called "Avengers - Marvel Legacy Primer Pages" and it seems to show a new hammer for Thor! Just wondering what everyone thought about this?


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ultramanmebius


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    Hello there! New to posting on the board but I do keep an eye on it to see what people are talking about with regards to Thor. I saw this artwork by Daniel Acuna in a torrent I downloaded today called "Avengers - Marvel Legacy Primer Pages" and it seems to show a new hammer for Thor! Just wondering what everyone thought about this?


I be Think if that New Mjolnir Same Shaped by Real Mjolnir is That Ultimate Mjolnir got broken and remodel Similar to Original Mjolnir or Dwarf use Uru Meteor Metal Create new Mjolnir Same Design of Real Mjolnir.


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bouken red


Member Since: Sat Jul 15, 2017
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Soooo....Thor with a new hammer, huh? Well, mjolnir is tainted now, because of all the mother storm nonsense...but I don't find a second rate hammer particularly appealing either.

But this proves the cover for Thor #700 shown here a week ago is nothing more but a bait and switch. I knew it all along. No-prize for me!


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Captainidiot


Member Since: Tue Nov 18, 2014
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At this point, I am ok with it. The mother storm has tainted mjolnir so much I didnt want it back anyways. Its a plot device so bad the Phoenix is afraid of it. The freaking Phoenix. Ridiculous. It would cheapen everything he does, because "was it him, or the mother storm?" Give him a hammer that is the level mjolnir should be, but that only he can lift.

Oh, and make it clear he was always worthy of holding mjolnir, but the mother storm didnt allow him to lift it. And make it clear she was never initially lifting it and being worthy, just the mother storm driving the hammer where she wanted it to go. That wont happen, but it makes more sense than petty old jane foster meeting Odin's definition of worthy. Maybe, just maybe, she's earned it now, but there is no way she was initially.

I knew she wasnt going away......dammit I hate being right! At least give him his name back.........


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bd2999


Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
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    Hello there! New to posting on the board but I do keep an eye on it to see what people are talking about with regards to Thor. I saw this artwork by Daniel Acuna in a torrent I downloaded today called "Avengers - Marvel Legacy Primer Pages" and it seems to show a new hammer for Thor! Just wondering what everyone thought about this?


Have to wait and see.




Look Raist bunnies...
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jazzbass6


Member Since: Tue Sep 30, 2014
Posts: 459


Ren and Stimpy... "No sir, I don't like it"



WHEN are Alonso, Aaron, Bendis, Spencer, Brevoort, and the rest of the SJW PC posse getting FIRED for destroying Marvel?!!?!?!?!


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makkari1


Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
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    Hello there! New to posting on the board but I do keep an eye on it to see what people are talking about with regards to Thor. I saw this artwork by Daniel Acuna in a torrent I downloaded today called "Avengers - Marvel Legacy Primer Pages" and it seems to show a new hammer for Thor! Just wondering what everyone thought about this?
Welcome to the Thor  boards. To answer your question I try not to think about what happen to Thor. I long for the day when the current crop of writers move on to screw up some other company. one else s are put out to pasture. I don't recognize the vagabond Thor nor do I recognize the pc Thor or her hammer. I have not bought a Thor issue since PC Jane took over and I await her departure to start buying again. 




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jazzbass6


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Difference being that people actually like Adora and there was no SJW gimmicky B.S. behind her introduction into the MotU universe nor a replacing of Adam.


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Aang


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From his Formspring page.
Tom, who's more powerful: Galactus or a Celestial? I'd put my money on Galactus over any single Celestial.
http://www.formspring.me/TomBrevoort
Sweet.
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Humble Priest


Member Since: Sun Jul 30, 2017
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Sure looks like it.

Interesting....so all other "Thors" in the past got their own hammer whereas the "real" Thor always kept Mjolnir.

The "new" Marvel is now indicating Jane is the true real Thor, and Odinson is "another Thor-like entity". Beta Ray Bill is a "Thor-like entity". Eric Masterson was a "Thor-like entity". All have hammers (well, Eric has a mace) similar but not THE true hammer.

The new Marvel does not really care about those who dislike their direction, similar to any movement (culture, religion, politics) that has gained and stabilizing somewhat of a foundation. We who oppose simply do not have any sway on Marvel these days. So, we have a choice:

1. Follow and accept what Marvel is doing. Understand that these are just stories and the "current" fad. Fads have a way of changing...and *gasp*, what was old suddenly becomes new again! Retconning what Aaron has done could happen. Just not now, and not for the foreseeable future.

2. Just stop following anything Marvel.

It is my opinion that this isn't really Marvel, but this is Disney. Disney is the main culprit behind much of today's media social agendas because they are smart: they see the direction of where society (and therefore money) is going, and placing their bets with that direction. Like it or not, they are a business, and business is all about making that money no matter HOW it is made.


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Humble Priest


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I just thought of something as I finished writing the above: the ONLY way me personally would accept a new hammer is if Odin actually has the dwarves make it ala the true Norse mythology and puts HIS enchantment on it. THIS then truly becomes the REAL Mjolnir forevermore BECAUSE Odin really made it.

The "original Mjolnir" IF this ridiculous story line of Aaron's become cannon somehow is NOT true Thor's "real" hammer. A "real" hammer of the NORSE GOD OF THUNDER was MADE by ODIN.


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Oliva


Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
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1) The Hammer must be Enchanted by Odin with the same power-levels as the old one- with the original TIME powers included. Gaea must provide her own Enchantment on the Hamer on an equal level as Odin. Thus, the New Hammer been heavily Enchanted by a Sky-lord and an Elder goddess will:

1) Hit with far more strength and power.

2) As the Gaea Enchantment goes, this Hammer will have the power over the Four Elements on a really vast scale (can create giant Earthquakes, Tidal Waves, powerful Mystical Fire coming from the hammer and that it can create countless Planetary volcanoes to erupt instantly, etc.); particularly Storm powers and much more powerful Lightning bolts. Thor's Energy Projection will also increase dramatically...

3) The vast energy of this NEW and improved will provide the wielder Thor with even more physical strength and durability... without the hammer, Thor would have his normal strength/durability...

4) Only Thor can lift the Hammer.

5) Odin must removed his Original Enchantment given to the old Hammer; whether that would interfere with the transformation of Jane Foster or not is quite irrelevant. For the Ultra Liberal Jane Foster and Mother Storm are using Odin's enchantments or mystical energies without his permission or consent- whether they use it for good or bad- is not really important.

5) The real Thor will be called Thor again. Jane has no justifiable reason to hold on to that name any longer. Case in point, that if she would've never met Thor, and the hammer would not have the worthy inscription, she would never had an idea as to who was Thor. Thus, any insisting on her part shows her lack of authenticity on her part- for no one want to imitate someone to the point that she WOULD deny who she REALLY IS and usurp an identity that is not hers. It's not only an obsession, but it has gotten extremely close to a pathological level already.

6) Thus, Jane Foster is barred from Asgard forever... She's no longer a citizen of Asgard...


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bouken red


Member Since: Sat Jul 15, 2017
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I found it silly that compared to He-man, who was supposed to be the "most powerful man in the universe", She-ra seemed to be a tad stronger (rarely straining whenever she would do some strength feats, unlike He-man), and her power sword would have the basic powers of He-man's sword, but it can also change to various other weapons.

In terms of the villains, Hordak was Skeletor's Master, and the latter villain was just the apprentice. In the show, She-ra would always remind He-man that the evil horde were more of a threat than Skeletor and his evil minions. Whe Skeletor and Hordak face off, Hordak always seemed more powerful.

As for replacing Adam...well, she did in a way. She-ra replaced He-man as the lead in the show. Yes, I know she was in Etheria, and He-man was in Eternia, but the "Princess of Power" show replaced "He-Man and the Masters of the Universe". If you read the Dark Horse Complete Classic Animation Guide book, the Princess of Power series count as Seasons 3 and 4 of the Masters of the Universe series, and there were constant guest appearances of He-Man and the other denizens of Eternia, with She-Ra as the main hero.

As for people liking Adora....well, I don't. I accept no substitutes. I like the original. I refused to watch later episodes of She-ra just because I do not like He-man playing second banana to his "twin sister" and he sword of honor (ugh! A stupid retcon...there was no hint of another sword from Greyskull and no hint whatsoever of another child by King Randor and Queen Marlena in the Masters of the Universe series).



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Rehzon


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Volstagg has the Ultimate hammer.



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Rehzon


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It be truly Thor's if he himself forges it with Odin adding enchantments. \:\)



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jazzbass6


Member Since: Tue Sep 30, 2014
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It wasn't rammed down our throats as badly or as blatantly as the current SJW posse of Marvel did with Ass-ron's stunt. There wasn't the media fanfare like Cancer-wench got. I can't help but wonder if cancer wasn't a factor in Ass-ron's agenda, how "popular" (notice the quotes) this garbage would have actually been.


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bouken red


Member Since: Sat Jul 15, 2017
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...but for me, replacing He-man as the main protagonist to the MOTU continuity is pretty much "ramming it down our throats".

I don't know why you must contradict what I am saying here. It seems to me that we both hate Jane Thor. And that's my original point..."I am getting a he-man/she-ra vibe"....which is exactly like She-ra replacing He-man as the main hero of the MOTU continuity in seasons 3 and 4...even if He-man was still around, he was no longer the focus of the story.

No media coverage? It was the 80s. What did you expect? Children's cartoons was not that big of a deal in terms of mainstream media was concerned back then, unlike comic-related properties nowadays. The term SJW was not even in existence back in the 80s. But She-ra replacing He-man really irked me, and that's exactly how I feel about this new Jane Foster nonsense.



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jazzbass6


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We definitely agree on a lot of things on this matter, I just don't view Adora in the same light. Adora wasn't written out the "stories" countless times due to being a useless character. She actually had a backstory that was thought out versus a concept that destroyed 50 plus years of amazing continuity. He-man might have taken a "backseat", but he wasn't destroyed and emasulated by a Femi-Nazi pushing a weak-ass concept.

Ass-ron gave Jane cancer as a plot device in order to give her some kind of "worthiness" characteristic showing her refusing to be cured, but willing to keep using the "Mother Storms" power (it sure as hell isn't the power of Thor anymore with Ass-ron's retconning Mjolnir's origin) despite it "killing" her.

So, I see your P.o.V. but slightly disagree with the correlation on similariites.



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bouken red


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We were never even shown how Adam got the power sword. He was just He-man, defender of Castle Greyskull, champion of Eternia.

The He-man and The Masters of the Universe series was only on air for 2 seasons (2 years? I dunno, I didn't watch it back then...i have the dvd), before Filmation replaced it with She-Ra Princess of Power. The circumstances then was very different. So, you keep on mentioning that "Aaron did this...Jane is like this...Adora is not like this...Aaron ruined 50 years of continuity....etc.", uhhhhh....not an apples to apples kind of thing.

But here are the similarities between the situations of Thor/Jane and He-Man/She-Ra as they are now (due to the preview image above)....1) Thor and Jane both have their own hammers, He-man and She-Ra both have their power swords (sword of power and sword of protection). 2) She-Ra's sword of Protection has all of the powers of He-man's sword of power plus other powers such as changing to different weapons. Jane employs Mjolnir in different ways that Thor never did. 3) And as for Aaron's depiction, Jane using the "power of Thor" seems more powerful than the original Thor, as She-ra seemed more powerful (rarely straining in her strength feats) than the "most powerful man in the universe". Those are just about it.

Injecting "SJW", continuity...etc....is like someone commenting that two girls have similar dresses, then another comes and say "nah, one is blonde the other is brunette, one wears heels the other wears flats...".

But as far as continuity goes...the introduction of Adora as Adam's twin sister retconned some continuity from the first 2 seasons of Masters of the Universe...one, there was no mention of Adam's twin sister...at all. Second, the Power Sword was supposed to be the most powerful weapon in Eternia, followed closely (supposed to be almost equal, according to the episode) by the "Sword of the Ancients" (it was in one episode in the first season), and the two joined to be the most powerful sword in all the universe. There was no mention then of the "Sword of Protection", which is actually more powerful than the actual Sword of Power. So, in some ways, the introduction of She-ra retconned some established continuity. But that's not the reason why I said "I am getting a He-man and She-ra vibe".



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