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Knight


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As the title asks.





It's interesting that a hero/villain performs one amazing feat, or use a power they haven't used for 20+ years, and that automatically propels them to a high status despite scans and evidence to the contrary. I don't know what is worse, selective feat picking that has only been done once or twice 20, or more, years ago or ignoring evidence from scans or the lack thereof. We need to stop putting our favorite heroes/villains on pedestals and start putting them where they really belong. But it's evident that people never will because they would rather accuse others of cherry picking feats, when they don't, and being 'morally superior' when they aren't. I guess being honest and as fair as possible only opens one up to being the target of childish accusations and fault finding by those who insist on acting petty and childish. What happened to a good debate between two civil, mature, adults?
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zvelf


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    As the title asks.


No, Thor is not resistant to Hela's powers, except well, maybe a little. Hela has a death touch and she once scarred Thor's face with it, though if Thor had zero resistance, you'd think it would have killed him. They have fought a few times in the comics, and for the most part, Thor evades or stops Hela's attacks through skill, agility, and use of Mjolnir.



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JesusFan


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Hela is closer top odin in her powers, isn';t she?


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ThorTheMightiestAvenger


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In her own realm, probably





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MjolnirsPower


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no not even close. he annhiliated her, and then resurrected her with the greatest of ease.




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    In her own realm, probably


Thor defeated Hela in her own realm. Therefore the answer is self-evident.




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Knight


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nt





It's interesting that a hero/villain performs one amazing feat, or use a power they haven't used for 20+ years, and that automatically propels them to a high status despite scans and evidence to the contrary. I don't know what is worse, selective feat picking that has only been done once or twice 20, or more, years ago or ignoring evidence from scans or the lack thereof. We need to stop putting our favorite heroes/villains on pedestals and start putting them where they really belong. But it's evident that people never will because they would rather accuse others of cherry picking feats, when they don't, and being 'morally superior' when they aren't. I guess being honest and as fair as possible only opens one up to being the target of childish accusations and fault finding by those who insist on acting petty and childish. What happened to a good debate between two civil, mature, adults?
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Norvell


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Keep in mind that was Hela's 'Hand of Glory', which is different than her pure death powers. Hela has 'deathed' Thor in the past via rapid aging (something only she can do to an immortal).


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    Keep in mind that was Hela's 'Hand of Glory', which is different than her pure death powers. Hela has 'deathed' Thor in the past via rapid aging (something only she can do to an immortal).


If memory serves, Seth a death god, also has the ability to rapid age immortals with a touch of his hand.




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Vidar


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      Keep in mind that was Hela's 'Hand of Glory', which is different than her pure death powers. Hela has 'deathed' Thor in the past via rapid aging (something only she can do to an immortal).



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    If memory serves, Seth a death god, also has the ability to rapid age immortals with a touch of his hand.



Generally, there seems to be a real underestimation of Hela's formidability. As a death god they're almost on a par with Sky fathers and in their own realms generally considered to be unbeatable by anyone less than Galactus or Celestials etc. But then Mephisto's showings are all over the place too, which I suppose keeps things interesting.
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        Keep in mind that was Hela's 'Hand of Glory', which is different than her pure death powers. Hela has 'deathed' Thor in the past via rapid aging (something only she can do to an immortal).

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        If memory serves, Seth a death god, also has the ability to rapid age immortals with a touch of his hand.



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    Generally, there seems to be a real underestimation of Hela's formidability. As a death god they're almost on a par with Sky fathers and in their own realms generally considered to be unbeatable by anyone less than Galactus or Celestials etc. But then Mephisto's showings are all over the place too, which I suppose keeps things interesting.
    Vidar


I wouldn't go that far. Thor made Pluto surrender in his own realm and bested Hela in hers to retrieve mortal souls.

Mephisto is different. He's more than a death god, he's evil incarnate. Thor has fought Mephisto on several occasions and in his realm. They have ended in stalemates.

None of them are on par with Odin, even in their respective realms.

Edit: Sorry somehow I missed that you wrote almost on par with sky fathers. therefore we agree.




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Norvell


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    I wouldn't go that far. Thor made Pluto surrender in his own realm and bested Hela in hers to retrieve mortal souls.



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    Mephisto is different. He's more than a death god, he's evil incarnate. Thor has fought Mephisto on several occasions and in his realm. They have ended in stalemates.


I don't recall Thor making Pluto surrender in his own realm, but it's been a while since I read the literature. Pluto is generally considered equal to or maybe a step below Zeus in his own realm.

Seth claims that he becomes more powerful each time he's destroyed, and he showed that he could battle a 'somewhat confused' Odin in JIM #513. Seth is certainly more powerful than Thor.

Mephisto falls about equally with the death gods, and has admittedly considered Hela a rival, if not equal. Remember, the whole Mephisto series was about getting one over on Hela. The Living Tribunal warned Mephisto not to transgress.

We know that the Destroyer is more powerful than Hela, regardless of the location.




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      I wouldn't go that far. Thor made Pluto surrender in his own realm and bested Hela in hers to retrieve mortal souls.

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        Mephisto is different. He's more than a death god, he's evil incarnate. Thor has fought Mephisto on several occasions and in his realm. They have ended in stalemates.



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    I don't recall Thor making Pluto surrender in his own realm, but it's been a while since I read the literature. Pluto is generally considered equal to or maybe a step below Zeus in his own realm.


Thor made Pluto surrender in his realm in Thor issue #130. Unquestionably He's more than a step below Zeus. It was Zeus who banished Pluto from Olympus into Hades.


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    Seth claims that he becomes more powerful each time he's destroyed, and he showed that he could battle a 'somewhat confused' Odin in JIM #513. Seth is certainly more powerful than Thor.


I am referencing their first few battles. Seth, like Hela's advantage was their death touch. Odin has defeated them both.


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    Mephisto falls about equally with the death gods, and has admittedly considered Hela a rival, if not equal. Remember, the whole Mephisto series was about getting one over on Hela. The Living Tribunal warned Mephisto not to transgress.


I don't remember that, it's been so long ago. I consider Mephisto to be a rival to Hela but overall more powerful.


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    We know that the Destroyer is more powerful than Hela, regardless of the location.


Agree.




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Norvell


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    Thor made Pluto surrender in his realm in Thor issue #130. Unquestionably He's more than a step below Zeus. It was Zeus who banished Pluto from Olympus into Hades.


I take your word for it, but I don't remember. It should be noted that Thor often hits well-above his weight class. Also remember that the Fates had to intercede and save Thor from Pluto, when they fought outside Hades against around THOR #200.


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    I am referencing their first few battles. Seth, like Hela's advantage was their death touch. Odin has defeated them both.


Of course. Odin is Odin. At least in DeFalco's mind, Odin can give the bulk of his power to Thor, then walk into Mephisto's realm and kill Mephisto (or so that WHAT IF issue indicated).


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    I don't remember that, it's been so long ago. I consider Mephisto to be a rival to Hela but overall more powerful.


Mephisto also kinda backed down to Hela during the Thunderstrike series, IIRC.




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      We know that the Destroyer is more powerful than Hela, regardless of the location.



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    Agree.





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      Thor made Pluto surrender in his realm in Thor issue #130. Unquestionably He's more than a step below Zeus. It was Zeus who banished Pluto from Olympus into Hades.



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    I take your word for it, but I don't remember. It should be noted that Thor often hits well-above his weight class. Also remember that the Fates had to intercede and save Thor from Pluto, when they fought outside Hades against around THOR #200.


I'd have to go back and take a look at 200. But a later example of Thor defeating Pluto one-on-one would be Thor #223.


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      I am referencing their first few battles. Seth, like Hela's advantage was their death touch. Odin has defeated them both.



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    Of course. Odin is Odin. At least in DeFalco's mind, Odin can give the bulk of his power to Thor, then walk into Mephisto's realm and kill Mephisto (or so that WHAT IF issue indicated).


But Thor has stalemated Mephisto in his realm on two to three occasions off the top of my head without the assistance of Odin.


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      I don't remember that, it's been so long ago. I consider Mephisto to be a rival to Hela but overall more powerful.



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    Mephisto also kinda backed down to Hela during the Thunderstrike series, IIRC.


Well the pic you're showing doesn't look like he's backing down to me. Thor has walked into Mephisto, Hela, and Pluto's realms and have come out alive under his own power.


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        We know that the Destroyer is more powerful than Hela, regardless of the location.

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        Agree.



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