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Upper_Krust


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Hey all,

one of the recent threads got me thinking about a possible ending to Aaron's run that would not only blow my mind but also get me to retrospectively buy all the Jane-Thor issues and sing Aaron's praises as the best Thor run of all time (yes potentially even better than Walt's). I don't see this happening but here goes.

Jane-Thor was a (revenge) plot to manipulate, undermine and unravel the lives of Thor and Odin.

Odin and Thor had messed with Jane's life; this was her payback.

Obviously Jane couldn't do this alone, it would require some powerful partner...Loki? Frigga? Mephisto? Cul? Enchantress? Gorr? Mangog? Malekith? The Enchanters? Immortal-Jane from an alternate timeline where she becomes an Enchanter? Who knows.

Rather than destroy Thor and Odin physically, the plan was to systematically destroy their self-respect, confidence, position and authority. To take away a god's very BELIEF in themselves...just as Jane had her self-belief and life taken away.

As a woman 'wronged' and scorned Jane was the perfect vessel for revenge.

The enchantment on the hammer was (somehow) reversed (suggesting the Enchanters), thus neither Thor nor Odin could lift it.

The whisper was (something like): "...you wouldn't save her"; acknowledging how Thor essentially let the real Jane personality be destroyed by Odin and did nothing to stop it.




You address Omnipotence...tread carefully.
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    Hey all,



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    one of the recent threads got me thinking about a possible ending to Aaron's run that would not only blow my mind but also get me to retrospectively buy all the Jane-Thor issues and sing Aaron's praises as the best Thor run of all time (yes potentially even better than Walt's). I don't see this happening but here goes.



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    Jane-Thor was a (revenge) plot to manipulate, undermine and unravel the lives of Thor and Odin.



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    Odin and Thor had messed with Jane's life; this was her payback.



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    Obviously Jane couldn't do this alone, it would require some powerful partner...Loki? Frigga? Mephisto? Cul? Enchantress? Gorr? Mangog? Malekith? The Enchanters? Immortal-Jane from an alternate timeline where she becomes an Enchanter? Who knows.



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    Rather than destroy Thor and Odin physically, the plan was to systematically destroy their self-respect, confidence, position and authority. To take away a god's very BELIEF in themselves...just as Jane had her self-belief and life taken away.



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    As a woman 'wronged' and scorned Jane was the perfect vessel for revenge.



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    The enchantment on the hammer was (somehow) reversed (suggesting the Enchanters), thus neither Thor nor Odin could lift it.



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    The whisper was (something like): "...you wouldn't save her"; acknowledging how Thor essentially let the real Jane personality be destroyed by Odin and did nothing to stop it.


So in essence Jane is a villain this entire time? While it does make some sense (which was shown in the Jane-Odin fight), she has bitter animosity towards Odin, it's pretty apparent she's already teamed up with the Mother Storm who hates Odin which is why she was chosen to wield the hammer in the first place.

And Jane's life wasn't destroyed in the slightest. She was offered the invitation to become a goddess but couldn't meet the challenge. When she failed and asked Odin to return her to Earth, there was NEVER, not ONCE, did Jane ever show any remorse, hatred, or ill-will towards Odin until Aaron took over.

So this theory is reaching for something that is doubtful to happen.




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Upper_Krust


Member Since: Fri Aug 21, 2015
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    So in essence Jane is a villain this entire time?


I agree.


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    While it does make some sense (which was shown in the Jane-Odin fight), she has bitter animosity towards Odin, it's pretty apparent she's already teamed up with the Mother Storm who hates Odin which is why she was chosen to wield the hammer in the first place.


She certainly seems to have animosity towards Odin and contempt for Thor...recently threatening to cut off his 'one good hand'.


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    And Jane's life wasn't destroyed in the slightest.


Well she went from being in love with a god to having her memory wiped of the whole experience.

Once she remembered the slightest detail of what was wiped she abandoned her husband and son.

So its pretty clear that Jane certainly thought her life with Kincaid and Jimmy was at worst a sham and at best less than what she deserved.


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    She was offered the invitation to become a goddess but couldn't meet the challenge. When she failed and asked Odin to return her to Earth, there was NEVER, not ONCE, did Jane ever show any remorse, hatred, or ill-will towards Odin until Aaron took over.


Other than abandoning her family for something as slight as a vague memory of her real past.


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    So this theory is reaching for something that is doubtful to happen.


I agree its doubtful to happen but I don't think its reaching very far at all.




You address Omnipotence...tread carefully.
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Captainidiot


Member Since: Tue Nov 18, 2014
Posts: 323


I support you 1000%. And it is a plausible storyline, not likely they would ever do it, but I love it. Seems like it would be perfect for Mephisto, but I dont think he has the power. Ah well, there is always hope. Not much, but there is still hope..........


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jazzbass6


Member Since: Tue Sep 30, 2014
Posts: 619


You do know April Fool's day is still four months away right???


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    She certainly seems to have animosity towards Odin and contempt for Thor...recently threatening to cut off his 'one good hand'.


I haven't read the recent issue yet.


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    Once she remembered the slightest detail of what was wiped she abandoned her husband and son.


Actually she regained her memories of the "chance of godhood event" decades before she met her husband and had a son. Therefore those particular memories have no bearing on the decision she made to leave her family.


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    So its pretty clear that Jane certainly thought her life with Kincaid and Jimmy was at worst a sham and at best less than what she deserved.


I never read anything cannon wise that implied your statement or supports your speculation/theory.


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      She was offered the invitation to become a goddess but couldn't meet the challenge. When she failed and asked Odin to return her to Earth, there was NEVER, not ONCE, did Jane ever show any remorse, hatred, or ill-will towards Odin until Aaron took over.



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    Other than abandoning her family for something as slight as a vague memory of her real past.


??? Again she regained her lost memories decades in advance of meeting Kincaid when Sif saved her life by sacrificing her godly life-force into her.


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      So this theory is reaching for something that is doubtful to happen.



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    I agree its doubtful to happen but I don't think its reaching very far at all.


I just explained why it is. After Jane regained those lost memories decades ago, she never showed any animosity or contempt for Odin or Thor until Aaron and his Mother Storm entered the scene.




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Upper_Krust


Member Since: Fri Aug 21, 2015
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    I haven't read the recent issue yet.


Me neither...technically

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGIiSJWAuV0


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    Actually she regained her memories of the "chance of godhood event" decades before she met her husband and had a son. Therefore those particular memories have no bearing on the decision she made to leave her family.


But she DID leave her family as soon as she heard about the potential return of Donald Blake.


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    I never read anything cannon wise that implied your statement or supports your speculation/theory.


She left her family at the merest possibility Donald Blake had returned.


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    ??? Again she regained her lost memories decades in advance of meeting Kincaid when Sif saved her life by sacrificing her godly life-force into her.


Do you recall the issue number perchance. I'd like to go over the story.


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    I just explained why it is. After Jane regained those lost memories decades ago, she never showed any animosity or contempt for Odin or Thor until Aaron and his Mother Storm entered the scene.


Maybe all it took was one spark to trigger her animosity/contempt. Possibly from the source that is behind all of this.




You address Omnipotence...tread carefully.
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    But she DID leave her family as soon as she heard about the potential return of Donald Blake.


I'm not disputing that.


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      I never read anything cannon wise that implied your statement or supports your speculation/theory.



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    She left her family at the merest possibility Donald Blake had returned.



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      ??? Again she regained her lost memories decades in advance of meeting Kincaid when Sif saved her life by sacrificing her godly life-force into her.



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    Do you recall the issue number perchance. I'd like to go over the story.


Absolutely my friend. It occurred in Thor #241. Here's two scans:

 photo Thor1_zpsxe8vn8pb.jpg

In this scan Jane says she's seen what it means to be an immortal - Referencing Thor #136 when she failed the challenge to become a goddess.

 photo Thor2_zpswjqxnku8.jpg

And here in #248:

 photo Thor3_zpsgc2fsmx1.jpg




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      I just explained why it is. After Jane regained those lost memories decades ago, she never showed any animosity or contempt for Odin or Thor until Aaron and his Mother Storm entered the scene.



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    Maybe all it took was one spark to trigger her animosity/contempt. Possibly from the source that is behind all of this.


Yes and the spark is Aaron's writing along with this whole BOGUS Mother Storm nonsense that goes along with it. I want to hope with you you're on to something but I think the only force having any influence on Jane is this female storm and it's not mind-controlling her so it's insubstantial if that.

There is and most likely won't ever be an answer to explain where was this Mother Storm entity when the hammer was broken how many times in the past? Why didn't it awake then when there was nothing to restrain if from becoming free?

Where was it when Dr.Strange helped to restore Thor's hammer? Why didn't the freak'in Master of the Mystic Arts detect it's presence then?

Aaron has just made this crap up as he went along to push his agenda. I'm really let down by his lack of detail to explain how the Storm didn't show up then.




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