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We've got Old Man Logan in X-men: Gold and Jimmy Hudson in X-Men: Blue. If we choose to count her, we've got X-23 in the Wolverine title. Does original Logan even matter any more?








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Reverend Meteor


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Subject: I hate Logan! [Re: America's Captain]
Posted Wed Sep 06, 2017 at 09:07:14 am EDT (Viewed 169 times)




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    We've got Old Man Logan in X-men: Gold and Jimmy Hudson in X-Men: Blue. If we choose to count her, we've got X-23 in the Wolverine title. Does original Logan even matter any more?


I hate Logan with the power of a thousand suns. But as much as I hate to admit it yes we need him.

If we didn't need him they wouldn't be giving us Old Man Logan, Jimmy Hudson and X-23. (and that other one Daken)

Same with Jean Grey...if she wasn't needed then this annoying teen version wouldn't exist.

Marvel doesn't want to use the originals for some moronic reason but they're content to give us watered down clones, bastard sons, distaff versions, alternate timeline doppelgangers etcs.

Marvel should either not use any Wolverine (my dream) or they should use the original. Keeping the original dead/off the board while using all these knock offs is weak. Embrace Logan for who he is or let him stay dead. Don't leave him dead and continue on with an army of knock offs.

What evil force is at work inside the offices of Marvel telling them to sideline their original characters for all these new knock off characters?



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UName


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Subject: Don't worry, he'll be back. [Re: Reverend Meteor]
Posted Wed Sep 06, 2017 at 12:46:15 pm EDT (Viewed 179 times)


As will all currently replaced or changed characters.

That's just how superhero comics work.

You'll learn to recognize these cyclic patterns after you've been reading for a while.


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The Black Guardian 

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Subject: Re: Do we need original Logan any more? [Re: America's Captain]
Posted Wed Sep 06, 2017 at 02:29:07 pm EDT (Viewed 157 times)


I'd rather have REAL Logan back than Old MOAN Logan (egads, all he does is whine), and ALL Ultimate Universe characters need to go away permanently.

But I don't even like REAL Logan much. Not since 1993.


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little kon-el


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Subject: We don't need any other Wolverines. Just Laura Kinney/Wolverine... [Re: UName]
Posted Wed Sep 06, 2017 at 04:04:05 pm EDT (Viewed 151 times)


...she's the best one with the best title out there. I'd rather have her on all of those teams than any of the Logan clones out there.

- l.k.


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Reverend Meteor


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Subject: Re: Don't worry, he'll be back. [Re: UName]
Posted Thu Sep 07, 2017 at 09:53:56 pm EDT (Viewed 157 times)




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    As will all currently replaced or changed characters.



    Quote:
    That's just how superhero comics work.



    Quote:
    You'll learn to recognize these cyclic patterns after you've been reading for a while.


Normally I would assume you're right as I've been a comic fan for 25+ years but Secret Empire #10 seemed like a repudiation of the fans who liked the older characters and Marvel embracing their newer crappier characters forever more.



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Reverend Meteor


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Subject: Re: We don't need any other Wolverines. Just Laura Kinney/Wolverine... [Re: little kon-el]
Posted Thu Sep 07, 2017 at 09:55:47 pm EDT (Viewed 152 times)




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    ...she's the best one with the best title out there. I'd rather have her on all of those teams than any of the Logan clones out there.



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    - l.k.


yuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AySXu8x-RnA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5eDDPD1slo



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Subject: Re: Don't worry, he'll be back. [Re: Reverend Meteor]
Posted Fri Sep 08, 2017 at 01:05:08 am EDT (Viewed 143 times)


Captain America is already guaranteed to return as I understood it. (Did not really read SE).

Thor is also basically a lock-in, as Jane will soon be dying. (Don't think that is a tease, Aaron apparently wants to do a "death of captain marvel" storyline).

Xavier looks to be returning in AXM.

Only a question of time until Tony Stark awakens from his coma.

And the others (only really Wolverine and Hulk at this point?) will not be long after.


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The Black Guardian 

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Subject: Re: Don't worry, he'll be back. [Re: Reverend Meteor]
Posted Fri Sep 08, 2017 at 07:43:11 am EDT (Viewed 150 times)


Marvel might say that, but their accountants will correct them. \:\)


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Reverend Meteor


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Subject: Re: Don't worry, he'll be back. [Re: The Black Guardian]
Posted Sat Sep 09, 2017 at 02:32:01 am EDT (Viewed 158 times)




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    Marvel might say that, but their accountants will correct them. \:\)


You would think the accountants would have signaled the alarm by now.





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little kon-el


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Subject: Yuck you! n/t [Re: Reverend Meteor]
Posted Sat Sep 09, 2017 at 01:07:15 pm EDT (Viewed 114 times)


n/t


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Subject: Re: Yuck you! n/t [Re: little kon-el]
Posted Sun Sep 10, 2017 at 01:27:31 pm EDT (Viewed 116 times)



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Chris

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Subject: Re: Do we need original Logan any more? [Re: America's Captain]
Posted Sun Sep 17, 2017 at 03:46:32 pm EDT (Viewed 92 times)



Logan is *the* only one we need. Toss the rest.
Laura is popular. She can stay. But Logan is essential.



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