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Messy thoughts -OR- work in process: If it were up to me...
In a One-Shot Special or Annual (that should've been out by now), in a flashback following Secret Empire conclusion, "Tony" and Jan conferred and determined to restart the Official Avengers Membership.
Everyone and every team PREVIOUSLY with an Avengers connection has no such claim with the current administration and no authorization to a valid Identicard.
The story would present the two salvaged core teams -and a FULL roster of Reserve/Solo Roster- gathered for Official Avengers Membership induction and Identicard presentation. Inactive and Postumous and Honorary membership were tabled for a subsequent day/story.

MIGHTY/UNITY AVENGERS:

T.A.I. (Tony's Aritificial Intelligence unique Iron Man Holo-form)
Hercules
Vision
Falcon
Spider-Man Peter Parker
Thor Jane Foster
Wasp Nadia van Dyne

Rogue
Quicksilver
Scarlet Witch
Human Torch Johnny Storm
Doctor Voodoo
Synapse Emily Guerrero
Wasp Janet van Dyne

RESERVE/SOLO designated Identicard carriers:

Hawkeye Clint (obviously forgiven for CWII after S.E.)
Beast
Hellcat
Jocasta
Tigra
Spectrum
Living Lightning
Firebird
Machine Man
Stingray
Manifold
Black Panther (debatable)
Captain Marvel Carol Danvers (debatable)
Hawkeye Kate (ONLY because she said so)
Smasher Izzy (ONLY because she said so)


That's it.




Above are believable members. Below would have to prove (to readers) they've can/should reclaim the honor of claim to the name. What names should be moved above or below the red lines?

THESE HEROES ARE REFUSED OFFICIAL MEMBERSHIP ATM:

Captain America Steve Rogers     *special case* that needs more exposition post SE
ULTRON Hank Pym            no, fugitive
Hyperion             no, fugitive AFAIK
Hulk Bruce Banner        no, MIA or dead... ?(Marvel confusing readers here)
Mister Fantastic         no, MIA
Invisible Woman         no, MIA
Doctor Druid            no, evil spirit on Weirdworld
Maria Hill            no, fugitive
Ant-Man Eric O'Grady         no, fugitive
Julia Carpenter    (webb)        no, since loss of powers
Red Hulk T. Ross (rulk)        no, since loss of powers
Flash Thompson (venom)          no, since loss of powers
Iron Patriot Toni Ho          no, since gave up powers
Guardians ofthe Galaxy (future) no, voided when left timeline
Havok no, til the Jan kidnapping cleared up
Sentry                NO, he's a resurrected Dark Sentry persona

THESE HEROES COULD EASILY CLAIM THE NAME - but with NO review, IF THEY FORMALLY COMMIT TO A FULL-TIME RE-UP provisionary period:

Dr. Strange
Storm
Daredevil
Spider-Woman Jessica Drew
Jessica Jones
Luke Cage
Unworthy Thor Odinson
Iron Fist    
Namor     
Gilgamesh
Shang-Chi     
Agent 13 Sharon Carter
Crystal Amaquelin Maximoff
Demolition Man             after his coma

THESE HEROES WOULD HAVE CLAIM TO NAME - but with mandatory INTERVIEW first:

Moon Knight            needs review and/or psychiatric pass
Black Knight            needs review of EvilWeirdworld vs Euroforce status
Black Widow            needs review iffff it turns out she isn't dead
Echo                 needs review after resurrected mystery
Wonder Man            needs review (but UA seem fine with his return)
She-Hulk Jen Walters        needs review for altered persona
U.S. Agent             needs review for opposing Capsam
Mockingbird            needs review for SHIELD association
Thing                 needs review for SHIELD association        
Human Torch Jim Hammond    needs review for SHIELD association
Deadpool Wade Wilson        needs review for SHIELD association
Squirrel Girl            needs review for SHIELD association
Sunspot                needs review for SHIELD association
Cannonball            needs review for SHIELD association
Quake                needs review for SHIELD association
Songbird            needs review for SHIELD association
Ant-Man Scott Lang        needs review after recent prison term
Rage                needs review after recent prison term

Starfox
Darkhawk
Sersi
Justice
Tiathlon
Jack of Hearts
Lionheart
Wiccan
Hulkling
Stinger

STILL GOTTA THINK 'BOUT THESE CANDIDATES STILL:

Jarvis
Rick Jones
Mar-Vell

Enigma
Red Hulk Robert L. Maverick

Speed
Patriot Elijah Bradley

Ares
Winter Soldier
Cable
Sabretooth


Lifecry (aka Deathcry)
Nova Richard Rider
Speedball
Valkyrie Brunnhilde
Captain Britain Brian Braddock
Protector Noh-Varr
Prince of Orphans John Aman
Nightmask
Starbrand
Hulk Amadeus Cho
Ms. Marvel Kamala Khan
Spider-Man Miles Morales
Nova Sam Alexander
Sunfire

Validator Michaud (first name unknown) Avengers #38 (New Avengers November 2014)
Ex Nihilo
Abyss


ALL THESE NO LONGER HAVE CLAIM TO THE NAME:

Young Avengers
Ms. America America Chavez Young Avengers Vol 2 #5 Current member of the Ultimates.
Loki Loki Laufeyson Young Avengers Vol 2 #5 Current member of the Dark Council as double-agent.
Prodigy David Alleyne Young Avengers Vol 2 #7 Former member of the Young Avengers.

S.H.I.E.L.D.'s Secret Avengers III
Nick Fury Jr. Nicholas Fury, Jr., Marcus Johnson Secret Avengers Vol 2 #1 Current member of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Agent Coulson Phillip Coulson Secret Avengers Vol 2 #1 Current member of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Taskmaster Tony Masters Secret Avengers Vol 2 #2 Current member of Hydra's Avengers.

Avengers A.I. Recruits
Victor Mancha Victor Mancha Avengers A.I. #1 Former member of Avengers A.I. Currently deceased.
Agent Monica Chang Monica Chang Avengers A.I. #1 Current member of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Doombot Avengers A.I. #1 Former member of Avengers A.I.
Protector (Alexis) Alexis Avengers A.I. #3 Former member of Avengers A.I.

Mighty Avengers Recruits
Blade Eric Brooks Mighty Avengers Vol 2 #1 Former member of the Mighty Avengers.
Blue Marvel Adam Brashear Mighty Avengers Vol 2 #3 Former member of the Mighty Avengers, current member of the Ultimates.
Power Man Victor Alvarez Mighty Avengers Vol 2 #3 Former member of the Mighty Avengers and New Avengers.
White Tiger Ava Ayala Mighty Avengers Vol 2 #3 Currently retired; former member of the Mighty Avengers and New Avengers.
The Bear (formerly of Stark Seven)
Kaluu Kaluu Captain America and the Mighty Avengers #2

Great Lakes Avengers (though it might be easy to get honorary membership after last mini
Big Bertha.
Dinah Soar.
Mr.Immortal.
Doorman. Herald of Oblivion.
Flatman.
Grasshopper.
Gravity.
Good Boy Goodness Silva

Astonishing Avengers
Enchantress Amora Avengers & X-Men: AXIS #6 (December 2014) Former member of the Astonishing Avengers.
Mystique Raven Darkholme Avengers & X-Men: AXIS #6 (December 2014) Former member of the Astonishing Avengers.
Sabretooth Victor Creed Avengers & X-Men: AXIS #6 (December 2014) Former member of the Astonishing Avengers and the Avengers Unity Division.
Carnage Cletus Kasady Avengers & X-Men: AXIS #6 (December 2014) Former member of the Astonishing Avengers.
Absorbing Man Crusher Creel Avengers & X-Men: AXIS #6 (December 2014) Former member of the Astonishing Avengers.
Jack O'Lantern Avengers & X-Men: AXIS #6 (December 2014) Former member of the Astonishing Avengers.
Hobgoblin Roderick Kingsley Avengers & X-Men: AXIS #6 (December 2014) Former member of the Astonishing Avengers.
Dr. Doom Victor von Doom Avengers & X-Men: AXIS #6 (December 2014) Former member of the Astonishing Avengers.
Magneto Max Eisenhardt Avengers & X-Men: AXIS #6 (December 2014) Former member of the Astonishing Avengers.

Dark Avengers
Iron Patriot Norman Osborn
formerly Green Goblin, Iron Patriot Norman Osborn Dark Avengers #1 (January 2009)
Bullseye
formerly Hawkeye Lester Dark Avengers #1 (January 2009) Conspiring against Daredevil.
Scorpion
formerly Venom/Spider-Man Macdonald Gargan Dark Avengers #1 (January 2009) Returned to Scorpion identity.
Daken
formerly Wolverine Daken Akihiro Dark Avengers #1 (January 2009) Formerly in Dark Avengers. Resurrected as a Horseman of Death.
American Son Harry Osborn Amazing Spider-Man #594 (July 2009) Inactive.

New Dark Avengers
Superia
Formerly Ms. Marvel Deidre Wentworth New Avengers Vol 2 #18 (November 2011) Member of A.I.M.
Skaar New Avengers Vol 2 #18 (November 2011) Former member of the Dark Avengers. Depowered.
Ai Apaec/Spider-Man Ai Apaec New Avengers Vol 2 #18 (November 2011) Former member of the Dark Avengers.
Toxie Doxie
formerly Scarlet Witch June Covington New Avengers Vol 2 #18 (November 2011) Active.
Gorgon
formerly Wolverine Tomi Shishido New Avengers Vol 2 #18 (November 2011) Imprisoned.
Trickshot Charles Barton New Avengers Vol 2 #18 (November 2011) Former member of the Dark Avengers.
Ragnarok
formerly Thor New Avengers Vol 2 #20 (January 2012) Former member of the Dark Avengers.

Nick Fury's 1959 Avengers
Nick Fury (original),
Blonde Phantom,
Ulysses Bloodstone,
Dum-Dum Dugan,
Dominic Fortune,
Kraven,
Namora,
Sabretooth,
Silver Sable Ernst Sablinova

Hydra's Avengers
Captain HYDRA America "Stevil" Rogers
Black Ant Eric O'Grady Secret Empire #1 (July 2017) Former member of Hydra's Avengers.
Chthon Chthon Secret Empire #4 (August 2017) Former member of Hydra's Avengers, while posessing Scarlet Witch.
Superior Octopus Otto Octavius Secret Empire #1 (July 2017) Former member of Hydra's Avengers.

1950s members
What If? #9 (June 1978) revealed that a prototype group of Avengers had been formed in 1958
Venus What If? #9 (June 1978) Currently a member of the Agents of Atlas.
Marvel Boy Robert Grayson What If? #9 (June 1978) Currently a member of the Agents of Atlas.
Gorilla-Man Kenneth Hale What If? #9 (June 1978) Currently a member of the Agents of Atlas.
Human Robot M-11 What If? #9 (June 1978) Currently a member of the Agents of Atlas.
3-D Man Chuck and Hal Chandler What If? #9 (June 1978)
Jimmy Woo James Woo What If? #9 (June 1978) Current leader of the Agents of Atlas.
Namora Aquaria Nautica Neptunia What If? #9 (June 1978) Currently a member of the Agents of Atlas.
Jann of the Jungle Jane Hastings What If? #9 (June 1978) Associate member.


Previously...

I miss Dad & Dan.


AGAIN? I thought that he quit. No, seriously, I really did not know. I like Firebird, Stingray and some of the Reserves. Are we currently seeing them?