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Subj: Re: Is Vision
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 at 07:48:16 pm EST (Viewed 258 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Is Vision
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 at 01:42:20 pm EST (Viewed 333 times)

    Well said. I used to love this guy. He almost came back in Busiek/Perez's revival - but still seemed somewhat watered down. He really only works as the rock in the center of the Avengers. When he's portrayed as just another member, he seems unremarkable. There should be two permanent residents of Avengers Mansion - Jarvis and the Vision.

I totally agree.

    He also used to be a huge heavy hitter, power-wise.

In the classic Avengers/Defenders clash, he was pit against the Silver Surfer! Now I readily admit, he's not as powerful as the Silver Surfer. But because he can go intangible, he can survive assaults that would shatter mountains.

I think he was actually pit against the Surfer because they had much in common and there was irony in them fighting instead of getting to know one another.

    These days he's a bit of a clay soldier.

Which is weird because he has added new powers he didn't have before.

But of course, the most important factor in any comic book battle is the current level of support the character is getting from the editorial staff.

    He and the Thing have that in common. When they aren't portrayed as formidable, they lose a lot of their appeal.

Definitely. I remember an early story when the Avengers were trying to capture the Hulk. Greenskin burrows into the earth like a super-rabbit and is quickly gone, the hole closed up behind him. Thunderbolt Ross roars something about none of the new Avengers being powerful enough to follow. (I think the membership was the Vision, Scarlet Witch, Clint/Goliath, Quicksilver, and the Black Panther.) The Vision says something like, "Perhaps not in terms of raw power, but there are other ways." And then he simply floats through the earth like a ghost and is gone.

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