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Subj: Re: Matchmaker, matchmaker...
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 at 08:06:28 pm EST (Viewed 161 times)
Reply Subj: Re: JUST READ Avengers #676: Part 2...
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 at 04:05:06 pm EST (Viewed 172 times)




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    Ridiculous to even mention it, I know, but the two female characters in this story who have white hair are Rogue and... Voyager.

So? ...oooh lower down you think they might be the saaame. Hmm... (Rogue develop a taste for alliteration and changed her name?)


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    So do we think Jarvis is in the hospital? Or did Wasp and Beast abscond with him to some secret lab? I'm guessing the hospital but if so, why are they in the room by themselves with no other doctors or nurses? Because the regular staff are so busy that Wasp and Beast could just walk in and take over a room with no one challenging them? So weird.

Seemed like regular hospital where they employed Avengers priority priviledges to secure a room and Beast jury rigged the tech to be better. (Selfishly just because he thought Jarvis alone was worth it? On the other hand maybe he'll let the hospital keep the upgrade.)


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    I'm not sure what you're asking, but Lightning and Voyager weren't on any of the other teams so they're unaffiliated. And including Jarvis at all is kind of sweet, I think.

Just inferred they are 'some kind' of member by the term 'Unaffiliated'. Since Santos showed up in response to Identicard summons. And Valerie Vector actual was authorized to make that summons. Plus they were immediately accepted back in the ranks.


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    He said, "Yeah, you're a lot better known than I am. After all, you helped start the team..."

D'oh! Of course you're right.


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    I wouldn't use that word since we don't really know her powers (something about space/time and portals) and, whatever they are, we don't know how she got them.

    Incidentally, whatever powers Voyager might have - Rogue could have them too if she absorbed them from somebody.

    Obviously Voyager is a future Rogue. I mean, come on. Either a future Rogue or a future Thundra after the High Evolutionary got through with her.

Hmm... Ravonna could be from future too.


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    Yes they did. The amazing thing is that Quicksilver actually likes somebody.

Heh. He liked Finesse. That was a nice friendship.


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    Love that pic of the Vision by John Buscema. Man, do I miss them both.

Who's gonna argue! \:\)


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    Undoubtedly. But I wonder how powerful Voyager is. If she's a blockbuster, then the Kooky Quintet was a very different proposition from the Kooky Quartet. Also, Captain America is diminished by this retcon. After all, this very era of the Avengers is what made him the unquestioned leader in any scenario. The "A" on his forehead could practically stand for "Avenger" first and foremost because of this very era. That effect must surely be diluted in this retconned reality.

    Hmm. "A" on Cap's head. "V" on Voyager's belt. A-V-engers. I bet they were a romantic couple. Mom and Dad of the Avengers. They certainly seem to be standing pretty close to one another.

Cap already has a future wife and Avengers Next kid doesn't he? He might be more of a "One What If Man - Woman". ;\) Besides, who wants another Sentry/Crystal retcon fling?



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    I have no idea who that is and maybe I don't want to know. Do I want to know?

Retconned member confirmed. Circa Kooky Quartet. *BOOOOO HISSSSS*


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    I have removed your comment from the space/time continuum with my godlike Maintainer powers.




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    Or maybe he isn't sure he'd be welcomed by his ex? I'm telling you, man, Cap and Voyager were an item. But it didn't end well. She wanted to rename the team "The Vengeful" so it would match her belt, but Cap was having none of that.

Matchmaker, Matchmaker...


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    An electromagnetic field gives him mastery of reality itself. Not sure I get that. But it's comic book science so why am I even questioning it?

    Nevertheless, pretty much everything is an electromagnetic field ensconced in space/time so Victory and Voyager ("V" and "V") put together would indeed seem to equal some sort of totality.

Hmm...


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    Which I think was about to happen. Voyager was in the process of taking control. Which is good if she's good and sinister if she's sinister.

It's a fun story element not knowing yet which side of the fence she is on. In spite of how things look in some eyes.


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    We're learning things as the Avengers learn them. Seems pretty natural and organic to me.

Well, its unfolding much more engaging than a Champions story of late. Still a bit wanting in places, imo.


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    All of the characters are brand new to me, even the ones who aren't actually brand new, except for the Blood Brothers, whom I know from the original Thanos epic back in the Bronze Age. Therefore I love the "Assembly" page at the end of the comic.

Yeah, that Blood Brothers redesign is gonna need some Lucy Splainin' too. Assuming it's the same 2.


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    Most of the good guys don't have information powers. AIM was doing its best but was a little behind the eight ball. I have to admit, though, Doctor Voodoo was nowhere near as helpful as Doctor Strange would likely have been.

    More to the point, though, in my opinion, is the fact that the Avengers made the assumption they had the luxury of time to map out a strategy before an attack came. I would hope Steve Rogers would be smarter than that, but he wasn't there. Sam was there, however, and he didn't, in my opinion, employ the sort of tactical thinking he surely must have learned from Steve Rogers. The first thing they should have done was find some way to post sentries. The Human Torch and Cannonball flying around outside would have been better than nothing.

Hmm... Maybe Voodoo is a little jealous that Wanda was upset about the Synthezoid when they could be holding hands in front of everyone instead? *cue Fiddler on the Roof*


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    We can be sure the Avengers survived. The mansion is toast, though. Which, frankly, seems fine to me. I always loved the mansion, but still, if we're being realistic, the mansion should never have lasted weeks, let alone years. It's just a house, for crying out loud. Almost anybody who can fight the Avengers can obliterate a house.

But we just got it back! Johnny did a mature decent thing to get it! Well, at least this is another way to bring in the GLA if they offer up their HQ. ;\)


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    Totally enjoying it. This is a really fun comic.

So far, so good. More or less.



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