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Jeff M

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    We just [tortured ourselves and] watched all the Burton/ Schumacher films as a family, my wife and daughter had no real connection to them when they came out.


    Out of the 4 80's and 90's films, Batman and Robin holds up to its intent the best is just the worst.

    Batman was the first [almost] well made serious superhero film in a long time, but hasn't aged well. Return had extra of the cool campy Tim Burton aesthetic, but had little to do with any version of historical Batman.
    Forever had a good (if extreme) tiresomely over-the-top Riddler, but a flat lead and a lot of transitional stuff.

    Batman and Robin is still exactly what is was designed to be:
    An all ages, merchandising driven, as goofy as 1950's era comics, kinda very stupid but fun film, with some of the best worst Bruce/Alfred relationship stuff ever filmed.

    Is it anywhere near Oscar Razzy territory? Lord, No Yes.
    Does it line up with the modern version of comic book Batman? No.



I gotta ask.

Have you ever watched the Schumacher films with children, their admitted intended audience?

There were bunches in the theater when they came out, and I've since seen them with friends and family.  Kids loved em.
The director mentions multiple times in the commentary, he took the opinion, and was directed to by the studio, that kids like Batman and to make the films geared towards them.

Batman Forever was very successful when  released.

Minor correction- The Burton films weren't "camp"  Adam West's series and the Schumacher films were.