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Subj: a more specific question about the film...
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 12:14:16 am EST (Viewed 52 times)
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    Ooh! So maybe Egypt got Bast and India got Hanuman from Wakanda instead of the other way around!

... and the "Animal Totemic Gods" might have lived in Wakanda when they were on Earth ...

After all, in the MCU, the Asgardians were believed to be gods by Norsemen because the Asgardians could come to Earth through the interdimensional portals between the 9 Realms.

Maybe, in the MCU, the "Animal Totemic Gods" (including the Ape/Monkey God, the Panther/Cat God, the Lion God, the Spider God, the Serpent God, the Jackal/Dog God and the Crocodile God) have been known by many names when they were still on Earth ? ... and they would have been originally turned into gods by the raw Wakandan ore of the meteorite at the beginning of civilization ?

... it would explain the connection between the Heart-Shaped Herb and Vibranium ...

    So if M'Baku had won the challenge near the start of the film, he would have rejected the herb? I suppose that's possible, but the movie never came close to even implying that, let alone stating it.

Not explicitely but, at the beginning of the movie, the Jabari were the only ones among the five Wakandan tribes who rejected the leadership of the Panther tribe.

Bast, the Panther God(dess), is explicitely connected to the Heart-Shaped Herb in the movie.

Not only the Heart-Shaped Herb gives panther-like powers to its consumer but it allows him to have access to an Astral plane populated by the panther spirits of the former kings of Wakanda (or so it seems ... Killmonger only saw his own father and, even though he was the brother of T'Chaka, Killmonger's father had not been a Black Panther himself, but both Killmonger & his father still belonged to the lineage of the Panther tribe).

M'Baku saw the death of T'Chaka as an opportunity to overthrow the rule of the Panther tribe over Wakanda because, during the ritual combat, T'Challa no longer had access to the powers of the Black Panther given by the Herb.

M'Baku would have renounced his commitments to the Gorilla Cult by consuming the Herb for his own benefit.


When Zuri offered Killmonger his own life in exchange for T’Challa’s during the ritual combat, Killmonger took it. Would not then Killmonger’s apparent further slaying of T’Challa have been a murder and not within his rights? Which should have been challenged immediately by the Dora Milage and the tribal leaders?

Not familiar with Wakandan law, of course, but this seems like a relevant plot hole to me.

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