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Subj: Re: Worrying implication of Sam Wilson #20
Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 at 01:08:54 am EDT (Viewed 359 times)
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 at 11:37:30 am EDT (Viewed 479 times)

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    In #20 Sam Wilson gives a speech about how violence isnt the answer to the problems between the Americops and the community, but later admits to himself that he doesnt really believe that and that he said what people wanted to hear rather than what he wanted to say. This implies that Sam thinks that violence IS the answer.

    My concern is this:

    The story has clearly been used as a proxy for the real-life events that saw the rise of the BLM group, so what is Nick Spencers message regarding those situations in when supporters of that group have resorted to violence, either towards their own community or against the police who patrol it? Some of these incidents of course resulted in fatalities.

    Spencer appears to be channeling Thomas Jefferson who stated "If a law is unjust, and man is not only right to disobey it, but obligated to do so."

    Of course if the real-life situation that Spencer is clearly mirroring in this story was as stark as the situation he presents us in the comics where we have the 100% white, 100% racist Americops, enforcing 100% unjust laws on a 100% innocent, 100% black community, then who could argue that violence wasnt justified? It isnt however - real life is much more complicated than that.

    I worry about two things.

    First of all, what is Spencers 'message' here? What exactly is he saying about violence as a proportionate response to opression? What is he saying about opression in our communities? He appears to be implying that ALL of our police are racist, brutal, and corrupt rather than just some of them.

    Also, what is he saying about Sam Wilson and Captain America?

    My opinion is that Sam either as the Falcon or Captain America would ALWAYS find another way, and NEVER accept that violence is the solution to our current social problems.

I don't think this line of reasoning is entirely fair.

Sam isn't Steve.

1. Sam's father was murdered
2. Sam was a social worker
3. Sam's lived in Harlem

He's seen the system fail people. And he still went out and did a press conference to keep the peace. He's entitled to have the opinion that the system doesn't work. He did his job to attempt to quell the rioting. But he's allowed to have doubt that his father's lessons of turning the other cheek don't actually work. Steve's the saint (or he was). Sam isn't a saint and should never be held to that standard. He did what he could do like a professional. That's all that can really be asked of him. How he feels is up to him.

    'Protest' yes - but nothing involving this real world issue has been made even the slightest bit better by any of the violence that has resulted from it, be that the destruction of our own communities, the destruction of police property, or the deaths - both civillian and police - that have resulted from it.

    These issues are ultimately ALWAYS sorted around a table, and I firmly believe that Sam would resolve to find a way to get all parties to that table quicker rather than take up arms to make a point - but Spencer doesnt seem to see things that way.


I'm not sure I agree with that.

I'm aware that Sam has suffered his fair share of loss, but I consider him to be one of the most moral and decent men in the Marvel universe - which is why after Steve he is, and always has been, the very best candidate to take over from Rogers as Captain America.

One of the reasons he earns that right is because he maintains his morals *despite* his experiences, rather than losing them *because* of those experiences.

Ive no doubt he is at a low ebb at the moment - and considering violence as a solution is a realistic emotion for him to feel - but if this is anything other than a fleeting feeling that he will eventually come to his senses about and find a better solution, then I think he is letting himself and the costume he wears down, and I think thats something that is bourne out throughout his history.

How many times can you recall Sam deciding that violence is the most effective resolution to a problem?

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