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Reverend Meteor

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Subj: Re: Worrying implication of Sam Wilson #20
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 at 01:40:39 pm EDT (Viewed 363 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Worrying implication of Sam Wilson #20
Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 at 05:12:07 am EDT (Viewed 358 times)


      But he's not considering doing the violence. He did do the right thing and did a press conference to end the violence. He just has doubts the turn the other cheek method will work. He's not saying he's going to go start a riot if things don't go his way...but he's aware of the real possibility that one's coming anyways.

    It was a meaningless platitude that he didnt believe in though. That is the kind of thing you expect from a politician, not Captain America - and whilst Sam probably wont be the person to exercise the violence himself (I hope), I consider it out of character for him to justify or support that violence being done by others, even privately.

I don't think he is. He knows the violence won't work. He knows turn the cheek won't work. And he knows everything he's doing is ineffectual and a fight's coming whether he wants one or not. I think you're making him out to be worse than he is. He's not advocating violence...he just knows turn the other cheek won't work. He's going through the motions knowing that he can't solve the problem, that he can't put faith in institutions but as Captain America he has no choice to play lip service to the idea that they do in the (perhaps futile) hopes of negating violence.

The vibe I'm getting is that you think Sam should be of the opinion that the system works. He KNOWS it doesn't...he was a social worker. His father was a priest that was murdered for nonsense. One of his nephews died of AIDS. His tenure as an Avenger started because he was forced down their throats by Gyrich. He hasn't had a charmed life where he can lie to himself and think the system works or that institutions don't fail.

I think it makes him MORE admirable that he's out there trying to quell the violence when he knows the system is flawed.

    Its probably more in character for Sam to be violent so that others dont have to be

But he isn't being violent. He has doubt people are going to keep turning the other cheek. I get your other complaints with the run that there's no moral complexity on the part of the white racist cops or whatever that Falcon has to deal with. Fair point. I just don't think Sam's a bad guy for having a realistic opinion. He's not advocating violence. He's not calling for outrageous demands. But yeah he's smart enough to realize his people are going to get sick of turning the other cheek after violence. I'm not a fan of Black Lives Matter but there were SOME incidents they were protesting about that bothered me too (Eric Garner and Philando Castile in particular). Some of these incidents really are injustices.

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