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Reverend Meteor

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USAgentfan

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Subj: Re: After Secret Wars though, is this still even the 616?
Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 at 05:44:39 pm EDT (Viewed 142 times)
Reply Subj: Re: After Secret Wars though, is this still even the 616?
Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 at 11:35:57 am EDT (Viewed 148 times)




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    Only because its the most effective way to make it all disappear, then we can all forget that it ever happened in the first place.



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    It just pisses me off that Spencers pitch was probably to cause maximum drama, upset, and histeria, with the sole intention of just wiping it all clean at the end of it.


That's the nature of the beast.

If you want sales you have to shake things up. But if you shake things up you either undo the big change at the end of the story or undo it later. Because if you don't undo it you ruin the character.

Someone mentioned Hal Jordan in Emerald Twilight. That kind of mess is what happens when you don't undo your big change at the end of the story that shakes up a franchise. By not undoing it quickly you years later ended up with an explanation that he was possessed by an alien entity...so he ended up off the hook anyways. These characters reset.




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    The man himself along with Alonso revelled in the early bad press, and very much went down the line of 'no such thing as bad publicity'.


And if it ends with a reset i think it was justified. If his intent was to actually destroy the Cap mythos permanently I would get the outrage.

A reset has to be coming. So the anger is misplaced. It may be lazy storytelling but seriously a crappy story with a reset is better than this story not having a reset.


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    The end result meanwhile is that neither of Spencers Cap books have been commercially successful, and #1 of Secret Empire sold less than the first issues of Civil War II, IvX, and Secret Wars - so these two dipshits get to forever more be known as the guys who turned Cap into a fascist, and they dont even get any sales to show for it.


They experimented with something different. They failed. But something has to be in between the pages of this comic about a character whose been around since the 40's. Some ideas are bad but everything has practically been done before. The ideas outside the box at least get news coverage.





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