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USAgentfan

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little kon-el

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Subj: Re: It is just as realistic as Captain America walking in on Nixon committing suicide...
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 at 12:53:47 pm EDT (Viewed 161 times)
Reply Subj: It is just as realistic as Captain America walking in on Nixon committing suicide...
Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 at 03:02:13 pm EDT (Viewed 171 times)

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...or John Walker as basically an Oliver North stand-in. Or how 9-11 still happened in the Marvel Universe with Steve Rogers digging out rubble of the twin towers and later it being revealed, via footage, that the government lied to him about his freezing. Or how Marvel totally misjudged and had Norman Osborn as a stand-in for a possible Mitt Romney and Dark Reign administration.

He's playing as fair and as realistic with Captain America as he's been show in the past reacting to the current political climate.

- l.k.

John Walker was a whole different kettle of fish.

Gruenwald invented him to explore the idea that there are different types of patriotism, and that being 'patriotic' is not necessarily automatically a good thing.

Whilst Walker was also designed to be an opposite to rogers, he was never a *villain* as such, was in fact as much a victim as anyone, had wholly positive intentions despite some mistakes along the way, and ended the story very much a hero.

Whilst I dont think theres any doubt that Walker was supposed to represent a conservative standpoint, he was still an admirable character. He disliked vice, he had no respect for bigotry, he supported traditional values without being pious, preachy or judgemental. Spencer meanwhile portrays conservatives as Americas great evil, and the souce of all its problems.

He's really nothing like Hydra Cap, and neither is this story anything like Gruenwalds - or worthy of being mentioned in the same breath.

Grus work was a clever, profound, subtle, and sensitive piece of political commontary, where as Nick spencer has deliberately hit every big red button he can for maximum drama and histeria


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