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jcampie2

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USAgentfan

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Subj: Re: Hydra Cap is the hero they deserve.... AND the hero they want...
Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 at 07:13:54 pm EDT (Viewed 112 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Hydra Cap is the hero they deserve.... AND the hero they want...
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 at 11:22:53 am EDT (Viewed 165 times)

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I'm very much to the left of the centre, and I strongly dislike Spencers work with the character.

Even as a Liberal voter I cannot abide by the amount of political bias inherent in Spencers work. Bias is wrong no matter where you stand on the political spectrum, and I'm not inclined to support it simply because that bias supports my broad feelings on people like Trump.

Maybe you are simply assuming that anyone who objects to Spencer is right wing.

Ditto. I voted for Clinton, think Trump is a disaster on an unparalleled scale, despise Fox and much of what the current national Republican Party has become, but I also despise what's been done to Steve Rogers, Thor, Hank Pym, Tony Stark, Nick Fury, Namor, Hawkeye, the X-men, hell, much of what was the Marvel Universe. The reasons for Marvel's sales tanking are many, but at the top of the list I would put their relentless character assassination of their own heroes and their own history. By the way, why would anybody, regardless of their political affiliation, who genuinely likes Capt. America, enjoy a story that turns Capt. America, created to oppose Nazis and fascists, into a Nazi or fascist himself. I know you're going to tell us he's not a Nazi. Others have already addressed the whole "if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck..." response and the myriad ties between Nazis and Hydra in the comics, cartoon and movies. So how about we use other words that now clearly apply to the character: mass-murderer, traitor, terrorist. According to what I've seen online, the character has: ordered the destruction of a major American city, Las Vegas, resulting in the deaths of thousands; poisoned the drinking supply of America; executed his former sidekick Rick Jones; participated in/signed off on the attempted murder of his original sidekick Bucky; established internment camps for Inhumans; imposed dictatorship on the U.S.; assaulted, subjugated other countries like France; murdered his Avengers teammate Black Widow; utilized elder demon Chthon, a primeval force of evil, to possess teammate Scarlet Witch, just as she finally gets her act together and recovers from years of insanity. They've made Capt. America the most successfully evil villain in the entire Marvel Universe-why would anybody have a problem with that?