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Subj: Hm, good point. This is my final decision. Voting for Rehzon *NT*
Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 at 11:25:42 am EDT (Viewed 82 times)
Reply Subj: You didn't take Cable of the Cable/Deadpool story (who's psi level was going uber before Deadpool fusion)...
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 at 04:42:34 am EDT (Viewed 82 times)

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      Rehzon makes some compelling points. Especially about the Mother Box healing Cable of that virus. Joe has used examples of the Mother Box healing Darkseid and Superman as reason enough that his Cable would be healed of that virus that limits his powers. What Joe has failed to realize is, the Mother Box only healed Darkseid and Superman's "physical" injuries. Darkseid was beaten by Doomsday, Superman's arm was broken. There is no proof a mother box can actually heal a virus, which is completely different than a physical injury.


        Rehzon is onto something in his reasoning with the Mother Box as well and his other points.


          My vote is for Rehzon.

    Deadpool's healing factor enabled Cable to overcome the T-O virus and reach his full power. The Mother Box can provide the user with a healing factor if needed as scans have shown and it can manipulate/transmute matter on the atomic level hence it changing Orion's facial appearance. That's why I provided that additional scan to show its far more capable than just simply healing injuries. A Mother Box was able to use its power to essentially make weapons from nothing for Superman to use against Doomsday in Hunter/Prey. I fail to see why a TO virus would be too much for it to overcome. Mother Boxes can also interface with tech. Besides purging Cable of the TO virus via healing and transmutation, it could merge with the techno virus and prevent it from spreading thereby allowing Cable to access his full power b/c he no longer would have to focus his abilities on preventing the spread of the TO virus in his body.

"In the weeks that followed, the techno-organic virus returned in Nate's system, having been too tightly bonded to his DNA to ever truly be gone. And yet, Cable's powers and his control over them had grown so much that inhibiting the virus now took up only the smallest fraction of his psychic power, barely limiting him at all. In fact, his powers were growing too strong and Cable recognized that sometime soon they would become too much for his body to contain, killing him. He began to ponder what sort of legacy he could leave the world... how to truly use his awesome power in the best possible way before it (and he) were gone."
Cable's psi level was growing 'Uber' level in that story and a "fraction" was enough to keep the techno virus in check. The virus was not holding his growing psi potential back at all. Being infected with the Facade Virus made the TO Virus killer crazy, so Deadpool's dna got rid of it restoring the TO to normal control. What good's a Motherbox without Cable's growing psionic level from that story? You didn't choose Cable from the Cable/Deadpool story, you chose earlier "Classic" version.

And the Mother box burnt out saving Superman:

    Additionally, consider I gave Cable the Orb of Ra. Given he can manipulate and transmute his own atoms with that power he should be purged of the T.O virus even without the Mother Box. Regardless, Rehzon's team doesn't have much in the way of psi defense anyway. It just seems like


Blue Beetle:

Besides having Nabu in the Helm, Hector was capable of mystical mind tricks:

    Also as you can see Thor can still be taken out by knockout gas seeping through his skin. If Cable chooses to do this Wildcat, Doc Midnite, and even Fate would be vulnerable to it.


What story is that? You assume Metamorpho can recreate whatever those humanoids or creatures in that scan created, to effect Thor. Is it something alien or magical used in its creation? You can't answer that.

Thor did grapple with Exemplar Decay who failed to hurt him through skin contact:
Besides, Dr. Fate would turn the Metamorpho powers against him:
Weather control & mystic cleansing rain:
Some precog:


It's interesting that a hero/villain performs one amazing feat, or use a power they haven't used for 20+ years, and that automatically propels them to a high status despite scans and evidence to the contrary. I don't know what is worse, selective feat picking that has only been done once or twice 20, or more, years ago or ignoring evidence from scans or the lack thereof. We need to stop putting our favorite heroes/villains on pedestals and start putting them where they really belong. But it's evident that people never will because they would rather accuse others of cherry picking feats, when they don't, and being 'morally superior' when they aren't. I guess being honest and as fair as possible only opens one up to being the target of childish accusations and fault finding by those who insist on acting petty and childish. What happened to a good debate between two civil, mature, adults?
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