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motifian

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zvelf

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Subj: Re: How powerful do you rate the Silver Surfer?
Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 at 03:02:47 am EDT (Viewed 25 times)
Reply Subj: Re: How powerful do you rate the Silver Surfer?
Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 at 12:16:47 am EDT (Viewed 31 times)



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      That's not sensing weakness, that's sensing the energy patterns of the characters.

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        C'mon you can show us at least one instance of him actually doing it, right?



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    Sensing energy patterns is precisely what allows him to determine weaknesses of characters with powers related specifically to energy. Surfer doesn't sense any weakness like Karnak. The context is has always been with regards to characters like Superman and Gladiator and for you to act obtuse here about that context is disingenuous. I showed you Surfer sensing and exploiting Vision and Wonder Man's energy.


Yes, energy manipulation is his forte and he did that. Using kryptonite or red sun is not energy manipulation, Superman does not shows these radiations when sensed by energy beings.

But glad you admitted that Surfer can't use weakness sensing.


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                Nice try misleading again, but this wasn't a fan voted fight like Wonder Woman and Lobo. It was DC and Marvel's decision.
              It was randomly decided who wins and who loses. Hence Aquaman defeating Namor who was superior to him in every way.
            Are you serious? You think DC and Marvel writers and editors flipped coins to determine the winners in the comic? You're losing all credibility here.
          Yes, that's exactly what happened. PAD and Marz said so later.
        You're just trying to gaslight the board now. Nowhere in that link does Peter David say anything about the fights being determined randomly!
      Yes, he did. He even says that he wanted Aquaman to win despite Namor being superior because he wanted to show Aquaman was a badass.



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    You just gave a reason Peter David had for determining a winner. That is the complete opposite of random! David also cited a way he thought Aquaman could win and that's what he ended up using.


That is as random as anything. Aquaman did not win because he was stronger or anything. He won because the writer wanted so.

Next issue even showed that Namor was koed when we know that is a huge low showing for him.


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      For every win there was one defeat for another character from the same company. In this case as Aquaman defeated Namor, Surfer defeated GL.



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    Yes, but the winner wasn't determined randomly. That is the point.


Yes, it was.


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          He didn't try to though. If he had done so, it would be over for Surfer.
        So you think Green Lantern lost because he didn't try? Wow. Talk about making things up.
      The same writer had Kyle defeat Parallax with Surfer's power cosmic and Thanos with Oan power and normal Thanos beat Surfer to death under Marz.



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      Suffice to say if Kyle had tried to drain Surfer, it would be over for him. Unless you think Surfer can defeat an amped Thanos when he has repeatedly failed to defeat a normal Thanos.



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    First, those fights all occurred under different circumstances that were not directly applicable to the others. Second, A > B and B > C so A > C logic doesn't always work for fights. Third, none of that is evidence showing that Kyle purposely was not trying against Surfer, a claim you have not backed up one iota.


These are done under one writer. I didn't say Kyle wasn't trying to win, he didn't use energy draining. It's called inexperience and it cost him. He even lost to Kalibak in physical combat under the same writer.

But you didn't answer my question, can Surfer do this?

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