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Subj: Re:The Surfer Did Beat Orion.
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 at 12:39:24 am EST (Viewed 97 times)
Reply Subj: Re: But you don't think Namor isn't at least somewhat of a speed bump?
Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 at 10:02:20 pm EST (Viewed 94 times)

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    I see it the same way as zvelf basically, with the exception that after Surfer beats Alan and Adam beats Namor, I think the Surfer-Adam fight could go either way. But yeah, I think you're underestimating Namor. I see him as just under top tier strength but only barely, and he's a ferocious fighter. I think Namor loses because he's at a speed disadvantage and a small strength disadvantage, but I think he makes it a fight. Incidentally, Namor is usually shown to be immune to electrical attacks (for some reason) so I think another of Adam's primary weapons is neutralized, and the fact that his electrical attacks wouldn't work might take him off guard and give Namor a momentary advantage. Black Adam probably beats him into submission eventually, but I think Adam's way wobblier than you're letting on. So this is really just a tired Surfer vs a tired Adam fight in my eyes. And there's also the fact that Surfer can basically will himself to recharge if he needs too. Could go either way, in my opinion.

    ---the late great Donald Blake

Surfer beating Alan himself is doubtful. Alan is the top of the herald tier and sometimes breaking above it. He is explicitly the top dog of JSA even when Captain Marvel, Black Adam and Dr Fate were on the team. Surfer isn't the top dog of Defenders, it's either Strange or Hulk.

Namor is less of a speed bump to Adam than Alan is to Surfer. You're highly underestimating Alan and overestimating Surfer as usual for Marvel fans. I'm being very generous to give Surfer 50/50 odds against Alan.

Adam would destroy Surfer if he ekes out a win against Alan, no two ways about it.

In John Byrne's Galactus/Darkseid one-shot. I think that if Surfer can beat Orion, he has a chance with Alan or the Black Adam (Although his chances against Adam are less, at least in my opinion.).

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