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Late Great Donald Blake

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motifian

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Subj: Re: Thor in a close one. Multi-directional lightning neutralizes speed.
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 at 01:15:38 pm EST (Viewed 65 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Thor in a close one. Multi-directional lightning neutralizes speed.
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 at 12:01:22 pm EST (Viewed 68 times)

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    What makes you think Superman and Thor are close in either strength or durability?



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    LGDB: Objectivity. I'm basing it off of what we've seen in the comics, and more in this case the movies; not some ravenous need to have one character come out on top. I mean the truth is there's very little evidence or ways to make a direct comparison, so I think any confidence here has more to do with your affinity for Superman than "evidence."


Not exactly. Superman has been shown consistently at a level of strength Thor isn't. He was able to tow a capsized ship, able to lift an entire building and carry it casually and shatter a hilltop by just falling through it.

Thor isn't shown anywhere near that level of strength or durability. Kurse throwing a huge boulder was shown as a level of strength beyond him. Just like Hulk stopping a leviathan.

Simply put, Superman is the strongest hero in his own universe. Thor isn't.


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    Thor's lightning isn't slowing down Superman when he took Doomsday's lightning blast like minor breeze. Not that Superman needs super speed here but if he uses super speed, the fight would be over before Thor even blinks.



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    LGDB: Thor has a pretty good record against characters with super speed. Like Hyperion, Gladiator, etc. Must be the godly reflexes. And what makes you think Thor and Doomsday are close in lightning strength or lightning durability?


Not in movies he doesn't.

Doomsday is far beyond Thor in strength or lightning powers as shown in the movies.



Not exactly. Superman has been shown consistently at a level of strength Thor isn't. He was able to tow a capsized ship, able to lift an entire building and carry it casually and shatter a hilltop by just falling through it.

Thor isn't shown anywhere near that level of strength or durability. Kurse throwing a huge boulder was shown as a level of strength beyond him. Just like Hulk stopping a leviathan.

Simply put, Superman is the strongest hero in his own universe. Thor isn't.


LGDB: This is all either conjecture or bad evidence on your part. The strength feats you mention here, Thor never tries and fails. We don't get to see him attempt them so we can't say whether he can match or exceed them. The Kurse boulder idea I guess you've reached a pretty bizarre conclusion with. Kurse lifts a boulder, and also in some sense, appears stronger than Thor, so you conclude Thor can't lift the boulder? This is pretty ridiculous. What we do know is Thor fights the Hulk barehanded and ostensibly wins the fight in Thor Ragnarok. Hulk MIGHT be somewhat stronger--it's hard to tell--but it's pretty clear they're depicted in a similar class. Enough that Thor can effectively fight the Hulk in hand to hand match.

As far as durability, none of your examples speak to the issue, and in the cinematic universe Thor basically hasn't been TKO'd yet so we haven't seen what his limits might be such that you'd know if Superman's exceeded his.

Simply put, Superman is the strongest hero in his own universe... because Thor and Hulk aren't in his universe.






Doomsday is far beyond Thor in strength or lightning powers as shown in the movies.


LGDB: Why even make this claim if you're not going to attempt to argue for it, explain it, or provide evidence? I've just watched the Doomsday appearances in the Batman vs Superman movie. Doomsday's lightning does nothing impressive. How could you conclude that it's more powerful than Thor unless that's already a preconceived conclusion you're harboring?


LGDB




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