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zvelf

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motifian

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Subj: Re: JLA Movie Superman Taking on Thor Movie version!
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 at 08:25:35 pm EST (Viewed 29 times)
Reply Subj: Re: JLA Movie Superman Taking on Thor Movie version!
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 at 10:58:15 pm EST (Viewed 44 times)



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            So Friday says that the explosion would vaporize the city and everyone and then Stark says "OK, let's kill everyone" and creates a seal to do that?
          Vaporizing the city is Stark's end goal. It WOULD kill everyone (except Thor) in the process so they evacuate them first. Vision saves Scarlet Witch, Iron Man dodges the debris, and Thor is the only one remaining to both cause and take the explosion, which he does.
        Where is that suggested that it will kill everyone except Thor? I wasn't aware everyone means everyone excluding Thor.
      The movie did far better than suggest vaporizing the city would kill everyone except Thor. It showed it. Thor destroyed the entire city which exploded around him and he survived.
    Only after Tony used a heat seal to contain the vibrations.


The heat seal's purpose was to contain the vibrations from Thor's strike and rebound them back up, but the seal had nothing to do with protecting Thor. No part of the dialogue you quoted says anything about protecting Thor and you've already admitted you were wrong about the purpose of the heat seal as we will see below.


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    It's a non feat actually, Thor neither destroyed nor tanked a city exploding.


Of course he did both. Here's the video. Thor hits Sokovia. Sokovia explodes all around him. The devastation is utterly massive. Thor survives with barely a scratch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnfmmp_Kjek


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            Are you sure you gave watched the movie? Because the heat seal was to secure everyone including Thor. That's what the dialog says straight up.
          The dialogue says no such thing. Who is the everyone that the heat seal is securing? No one's left on Sokovia except Thor and there's no seal around Thor. You're making a fool of yourself with your wild rationalizations.
        Yes, it does. Go watch it again.
      I've already watched it again. You are wrong. Again who is the "everyone" that the heat seal is securing for you? EVERYONE BUT THOR is evacuated!
    So it's for Thor then? What's hard to understand here?


So you were flat wrong. You said the heat seal was for "everyone" but there is no everyone which proves yours was a made-up reason all along. There would be no reason to say "everyone" if you only ever meant Thor. Furthermore, you even get to see what the heat seal looks like at the 33 second mark in the above linked video. You see Thor strike the vibranium at the 53 second mark. Everything EXPLODES around him. There is absolutely no heat seal around him.


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              Thor hit the vibranium, the vibrations from the vibranium went downward, hit Stark's heat shield and reverberated back up, and vaporized the city. But it was all Thor channeling the power to destroy the city.
            Never mind the dialog which says that if Thor hits the spire if will not do anything more than crack the spire.
          Friday is talking about the city/land mass cracking, but cracking it isn't enough. They have to vaporize it to minimize the devastation.
        And contain the vibrations so Thor does not gets killed.
      The dialogue states no such thing. Here is the dialogue again that you yourself cited and it says nothing about protecting anyone, much less Thor.
    Yes it does. Denial coming again.


Then tell me the exact line of dialogue that says they are doing this to protect Thor. You can't.


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    It's also to seal the vibrations in a closed loop. If the vibrations escaped and hit Thor, they will not be doubling back. Thanks for destroying your own theory.


Actually that destroys yours. If Thor is blocked by your theoretical heat seal, he's blocked from striking and creating the vibrations in the first place. The doubling back part is when the vibrations hit the bottom of the floating island and bounce back up. That's why Stark says, "Maybe if we can cap the other end," meaning the bottom of the island. He's not capping the top. How could he? He's at the bottom with millions of tons of rock between him and Thor.




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