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Subj: Re: Do you Remember This?
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 at 05:16:40 pm EST (Viewed 21 times)
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 at 04:36:43 pm EST (Viewed 43 times)
Quote:I don't recall his heralds leading him to hostile worlds intentionally or G complaining about this. Please provide title and issue(s) when this occurred.
I really don't have time to go dig up where I read this but I do remember it was during the Surfer's 2nd tour of duty to Galactus. I do remember Terrax in an effort to weaken/destroy his master leading Galactus to difficult worlds.
Quote:5.) Galactus would also rather retreat and find a easier world to consume than to waste energy/time on a world where it cost more energy to take than what he would gain from it. (If a world makes it hard for him to take he'll just leave to find a easier target.)
True, he does do it. When I say retreat I'm not saying that he runs with his tail between his legs but he will weigh the cost of the engagement. He did it when in a "What IF" story arc where he said to Phoenix after the battle that he could basically defeat her but eluded to the fact that it would cost more than what he would get. He retreated from an encounter with Tyrant stating that he would "basically face Tyrant when he is ready. There are other numerous issues I don't have time to research.
Quote:Absolutely not. My second scan shows what you state is completely FALSE.
Quote:You wrote "Galactus would also rather retreat and find a easier world to consume than to waste energy/time on a world where it cost more energy to take than what he would gain from it. (If a world makes it hard for him to take he'll just leave to find a easier target."
#1 What IF stories aren't cannon. You already know this. So let's eliminate that story all-together. #2 In the case with Tyrant, G wasn't trying to consume a world and then backed down because of Tyrant to find an easier target. This was an entirely different situation all-together so your response is invalid. Cite me an example in which G, according to you, would rather retreat from devouring a world that is too challenging to consume because he would waste too much energy in the process of trying to devour target world.
This is all based on if that world is sufficient to challenge him. In 99% of the time a world is not powerful enough to challenge his herald let alone Galactus himself but he has been turned round and left empty handed. If the battle would leave him depleted he will avoid it if possible. Make no mistake if Galactus comes back another time he will be successful in claiming that world. What If stories give a look into how things would turn if divergent from the main 616 so they are counted in the sense that they are possible. Also consider the Odin/Galactus battle. The cosmic seed would have powered Galactus forever yet the one thing that he desperately wants was denied him by Odin. The seed would ended his hunger forever yet he can't go get it because of Asgard being in the way.
Quote:That wasn't what we disagreed about. I stated one world is sufficient to bring Galactus back to peak power. You stated he has no upper limit. The more worlds he consumes, in succession, the more powerful he becomes.
Quote:It works both ways. The less energy he gets he will actually shrink in size and when he gets more the larger he becomes and he has no real limit. The problem is that consumable worlds are not easy to find so if 1 world will get him by then he'll do 1 world.
I agree with everything you wrote here with the exception he has no limit.
The no limit has been demonstrated in 2 separate comics. Simonson and Hickman both show Galactus consuming multiple worlds and never stating that he is a "full" power. CanGalactus ever be fully fed to the point he has no more room for extra energy? Galactus needed 4 worlds to fight the mad Celestials and in Simonson's run he started consuming the universe. In both issues Galactus had grown to large proportions. Galactus has no stomach with a set boundary so there is no limit as to how much he can take in. Conversely this works in the opposite because he can and does lose it overtime. He does say that he is sated or restored but this is not all he can take in but rather enough to keep the hunger away and for him to function at a certain power level.
Quote:Also my first scan shows, Galactus is beyond human emotion called guilt. He has no remorse and therefore no restraint from using his full power immediately to take what he wants.
This is more hyperbole than anything. If Galactus didn't have guilt he would try to cure himself of his hunger. Dr. Strange and Odin also used this guilt against him so it there he just suppresses it like he does some of his heralds. He only takes what he needs to survive and never gloats at the destruction of a world. If he had no remorse he would not make deals to spare worlds (Zen-La, Earth and many others because keeping oaths would be meaningless to a remorseless person.
Quote:And John Bryne shows him with emotions. Galactus suppresses his emotions (he was human/mortal a long time ago and he wasn't born as a Galactus or came into being as a abstract he has feelings he just hides them. Odin pulled them out of his head once before so they are there. A long time ago he resolved himself to justify what he does to survive.
Quote:Bryne's issue shows there was at one time feelings and emotions in G and he reflected on that for a very short period in a desperate situation when he was near death. There are many more examples stating otherwise. G doesn't care about lifeforms on planets.They are insignificant to him and beneath his notice. And just like my scan shows he destroys everyone during his devouring of the planet with no remorse, no pity what-so-ever. Yes at one time he had guilt, and maybe there is a tiny shred still left somewhere but the bottom line is G's normal mindset is one thing, and one thing only: To feed and nobody better get in his way.
John Byrne was the only writer to use that guilt but Stan lee used it years earlier and writers after Bryne used the guilt. Galactus just hides it deep in his mind. Galactus is constantly trying to end his hunger and he has used some pretty crazy things to do it. For a person you has no remorse he is also rather honorable in his dealing with lesser beings. Keeping oaths making Beta Ray Bill a female companion. granting power and help saving worlds and universes. Galactus has all the emotions but he's doing this for so long that emotions sometimes get buried. He will take what he needs and has never destroyed with pure malice or wantingly. He's not a pushover and will smash you if get in his way.
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