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Subj: Re: To the best of my knowledge...
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 at 10:57:25 pm EST (Viewed 80 times)
Reply Subj: Re: To the best of my knowledge...
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 at 10:46:23 pm EST (Viewed 91 times)

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              ...this "Franklin universe" was part of 616 canon.

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              The Franklin universe itself was a part of 616 canon but not the events which transpired within it. Original hero origins and histories/events were changed which never took place in 616. Upon completion of the story, the FF and Avengers were returned back to the mainstream Marvel universe.

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                I now remember this event as I still have all...edit: most of the original stories.

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            But Ashema was from the 616 universe, and I thought it was also the true Thor she turned into a frog.

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          FF and Avengers were from the 616 universe too. And she did turn Thor into a frog.....in Franklin's pocket non-cannon universe.

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        So be clear then. Did a 616 celestial turn a 616 Thor into a frog or not?



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    At the end of Heroes Reborn saga, FF and Avengers were returned to the mainstream Marvel universe. So yes, it's a story that happened but it's not considered to be cannon.



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    Remember heroes origins and histories were changed in Franklin's universe. So there was no truth to begin with.



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    Now if you want to say a celestial has the power to change someone to a frog in 616 universe, I won't refute it.



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So...

From Ashema’s perspective and the celestial’s, nothing ever happened then? She went into a non-canon pocket universe, conducted an experiment, and reported the results to the other celestials. But the part where she turned the 616 Thor into a frog got erased from her report because...?

I’m glad that you don’t doubt a celestial can turn Thor into a frog but I feel your rationale that it never happened in a canon story or canonical sense is just untrue.



You do realize there were two identical Thor's in the Heroes Reborn Saga who fought one another correct?

That in of itself makes all of the events that transpired in Franklin's pocket universe not true.

I can provide a scan upon request.


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