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Subj: Here it is Battle of the Sexes: Part 2
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 at 10:04:21 pm EST (Viewed 137 times)
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Someone recently mentioned Jane Thor in a post, and it got me thinking about how now we have female characters who are top tier in power level. But that hasn't always been the case. In the 60's we had Sue Storm who didn't yet have force field powers and Jean Grey with modest psi powers, but they were the weakest members of their groups. Come the 70's, they and other female characters became more powerful.

I was wondering, who's the first female Marvel character to have top tier power levels? Would it be Jean Grey as Phoenix? Who's the first female DC character to have top tier power levels? I suppose Supergirl or any kryptonian would count.

Battle of the Sexes:

The Guys:

Hulk
Iron Man
Quasar (Wendell)
Spiderman
Superman
Thor
Wolverine

vs.

The Gals:

Invisible Woman
Captain Marvel (Carol)
Jean Grey as Phoenix
Scarlet Witch
She-Hulk
Storm
Wonder Woman



The Guys:

Hulk
Iron Man
Quasar (Wendell)
Spiderman
Superman
Thor
Wolverine
Thing
Surfer

The Gals:

Invisible Woman
Captain Marvel (Carol)
Jean Grey as Phoenix
Scarlet Witch
She-Hulk
Storm
Wonder Woman
Moondragon
Rogue

We will explore without including peak power levels: No Dark Phoenix, WW-Hulk, Rune Thor, etc, because those events are generally one-time or seldom event that occur. Yeah yeah it's nice to talk about their upper-peak potential of breaking apart planets, laying out other multiple top-tier elite characters, and taking out Sky-Fathers but it's not the norm for them and never will be.

Also let's try to keep popularity bias out of the picture shall we?

The *GUYS* won in Polygamist's initial presentation match-up quite easily by a landslide IMHO.

My goal here is to see if I can turn the tables realistically (if that's possible by pairing up good match-ups) giving the *GALS* their turn in the sun.

Let's GO!

Quasar vs. Captain Marvel - These two match-up well I think. Captain Marvel possesses super strength, flight, superhuman speed/durability/ reflexes/agility along with photon and stellar light energy blasts. She also has energy absorption and regenerative healing ability in her arsenal. Wendell wields the Quantum bands that enables him to tap into an unlimited energy reserve (Quantom Zone). Without getting into much detail about his capabilities, Quasar's attributes are on the same level as Carol. I equate some of his abilities to Green Lantern but the big difference is he can siphon energy from just about any energy source and turn it against his opponent giving him the win over Captain Marvel.
Win - Quasar

Surfer vs. Phoenix - This is a tough fight here. The only reason I chose Norrin to fight her over everyone else is because he's the best match-up against her. We all know how versatile a weapon the power cosmic is and there's no other female on the Gals list who can challenge Norrin IMHO (also Phoenix is truly at home in the cosmos). Jean took down Firelord another herald decisively without too much effort when he was single-handedly taking out the entire team of the X-men. Surfer is in trouble.
Win - Jean

Wonderwoman vs. Thor - I wanted to go with a different match-up for these two but they are a match made in heaven--God vs. Goddess, Prince vs. Princess, warrior vs. warrior. WW is non-arguably physically the top-tier female in both the Marvel and DC universe. She has gone toe-to-toe against Superman, can take an enormous amount of punishment, possesses flight, is trained as a skilled warrior, carries an unbreakable magic lasso, enhanced speed and reflexes, and bracelets that are used for both offensive and defensive capabilities. Thor on the other hand at the very least matches all of Diana's physical attributes and he's been a skilled warrior far longer fighting galactic/cosmic threats around the universe. While Diana won't go down easily Thor using a combo of Mjolnir's various powers (he also has the advantage of striking her from a further distance than she can) combined with the powers of the storm are too much for her to overcome in the end.
Win - Thor

Hulk vs. Moondragon - Hear me out here. Most on this forum will probably not be fond of me after what I write here, but what else is new? That's probably already the case so what do I have to lose? \:\) Believe it or not, this is a better match-up than it appears on paper. But for some of you will be difficult to sell. Out of the remaining Gals Polygamist originally introduced in this battle of the sexes, none of them has a chance against the Hulk after Jean and perhaps WW but they are both occupied at the moment against elite opponents of their own. Then I thought, is there another female out there in the MU who could be a true threat to the green giant? Enter Moondragon--while Heather doesn't possess the physical tools to slow the Hulk down, those aren't her bread and butter to begin with. Very few have the strength/stamina/durability to stand up to the Hulk but many have succeed in mentally taking control of his mind. In the past Moondragon has exhibited tremendous telepathic abilities. She once seized mental control of an entire alien world while concurrently telepathically controlling Thor to do her bidding. Hulk has no telepathic shields to guard his mind and if Moondragon strikes, especially if Hulk is in a calm state, she instantly gains control over him and can use him against the Guys. Anna is someone I hope you don't sell short here. She's capable of taking down any one of the Guys one-on-one.
Win - Moondragon

Iron Man vs. She-Hulk- Now things start to get interesting in trying to pair the remaining contestants off into competitive matches. Iron Man is a real problem here and only Jennifer (of the remaining Gals) has a legitimate chance to answer the call. Yes I'm well aware of Stark's super genius, the wide array of weapons (long range ones at that) at his disposal. But something tells me She-Hulk's immense super-human durability/healing factor can handle a lot of what is dished out. But in the end I just can't see it happening. Stark is too smart and Jennifer has too many limitations.
Win - Iron Man

Superman vs. Rogue (my wildcard) - The only question we must ask each other is this: Can Rogue absorb Clark's powers like Parasite can? If Anna can, and I don't really see why she would be unable to--she will attain all of Clark's powers and abilities. Considering these two have never met before and Clark's propensity for not wanting to engage against the opposite sex, I envision Rogue taking full advantage of the opportunity. After she's drained Clark, if she's smart (and she is, like in her Avengers debut) is to go after another big-gun on the Guys team to absorb either Thor or Hulk powers. Rogue is my wildcard and really helps tilts the favor for the Gals because she matches up well against Thor, Supes, or Hulk.
Win - Rogue

Storm vs. Spiderman, Wolverine, or Thing.
Ororo - Wins

Scarlet Witch vs. Spiderman
Parker -Wins

Invisible Woman vs. Spiderman/Wolvie- Can go either way. But I don't see how Parker can break Sue's defensive force-fields before she envelops him in one of her own. Against Logan, Sue should be able to use various techniques to stop Logan. Use an invisible platform to raise him to a great height and then let him fall, cut off his oxygen supply, etc.
Sue-Wins


Next round is Thor, Iron Man, Quasar, Spiderman (debatable) vs.

Phoenix, Rogue with Superman powers, Moondragon with controlled Hulk, Storm, Invisible Woman

Gals Win.

Thoughts?











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