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Subj: The Left hits back
Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 at 04:41:55 am EDT (Viewed 232 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Hung Parliament
Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 at 03:04:27 am EDT (Viewed 204 times)
Quote:Highlight of the night for me was seeing the smile knocked off Nicola Sturgeon's face. Especially with Alex Salmond losing his seat. Very satisfying.
Quote:Oh yes! I forgot all about that, pretty much the only silver lining round the whole cloud! Hopefully, that'll shut the SNP up about "Indy Ref 2" now maybe for a month or three. As I suspect that is what lost them over a 1/3 of their seats.
Quote:I blame her advisors, and the ones who wrote the manifesto.
Quote:Announcing policies like the 'dementia tax' (It's not a tax, it's paying for your own care, and it's a better system than the one that's in place), means testing for winter fuel payments for pensioners and school meals for children in the weeks leading up to the election was disastrous. They all leave the poorest better off, but they were all policies that could be easily twisted by the left into soundbites guaranteed to enrage people and shore up Corbyn's position as 'for the many, not the few.'. For example asking people to use their assets to pay for their old age care was immediately seized on and twisted into the so-called 'dementia tax'.
Quote:May's advisors should be shot.
Quote:To top it off, Corbyn simply played the whole campaign game much better than May did. Not participating in the leaders' debates was a huge mistake on May's part. And on top of that, she campaigned - and rightly so - in marginal seats where the Conservatives desperately needed to win, but that meant the media coverage was mostly of her talking rather earnestly to a few workers in a factory.
Quote:Corbyn generally stuck to popping up in Labour strongholds, so the coverage of him was quite different. Walking down streets with people cheering him, all smiles, handshakes and pats on the back. His team made him LOOK like a winner right from the get go.
Quote:These are excellent points really, May looked very weak in this election its almost like their team wasn't even trying. Corbyn looked better and this showed. Thankfully, we dodged electing Comrade Corbyn this time. We might not be so fortunate next time.
Look, May called this election, because they were so far ahead she thought she could win without showcasing her limitations (being charismatic, thinking on her feet, being able to debate). As she was selling herself as a negotiator, it was imperative she wouldn't be beaten in public by the superior debater, Corbyn.
She has been led too heavily by her Chief of Staffs and refused to allow her more personable ministers, Johnson etc to engage.
She may have travelled to other sites, but she sure avoided the people, she stopped off in my city unannounced and left after 5 minutes.
It was clear, she was ducking Corbyn. Based on that, I can't say she is a good negotiator. That cost her.
She will no longer be able to get tough legislation through.
The age of austerity has finished.
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