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zvelf

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MysteryMan

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Subj: Re: I kind of see this as having little real effect...
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 at 01:14:59 pm EDT (Viewed 78 times)
Reply Subj: I kind of see this as having little real effect...
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 at 09:04:32 am EDT (Viewed 79 times)



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    He's getting away without being punished.
    He likely has done both good and bad.
    He's old enough there is no point in wasting money on the trial.



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    Essentially the pardon just saves taxpayers some money imo. For all intents and purposes it acknowledges he made mistakes (hence pardon) and saves us tax payers time and money.


The pardon does not in any way acknowledge that Arpaio made mistakes. In fact, Trump has flat out stated that Arpaio made no mistakes and the pardon is to indicate exactly that.

You sound like you are engaging in some major rationalizing. Everybody has done both good and bad. That has nothing to do with the law and justice. Arpaio broke the law and therefore should be punished as justice is met out. Presidents typically issue pardons 5 years or more after the sentencing and only after remorse is shown. Neither of which occurred in this instance. It's actually the opposite, Arpaio brags about his misdeeds.

Second, are you seriously saying if someone is old enough, then prosecuting them is a waste of time and so we shouldn't in order to save tax payers money? I guess really old people should feel free to go on crime sprees then. Third, there is no trial here. A judge already found Arpaio guilty of contempt. All that's left is the sentencing phase.

Finally, Trump's abnormal-use-of-protocol pardon is a clear signal to his friends not to cooperate in the Russia investigation. If they get into legal trouble doing so, Trump will just pardon them. That has some real effect.