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zvelf

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MysteryMan

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Subj: Re: So far 300,000+ signatures requesting that antifa be called a terrorist group by The White House (edited)
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 at 11:31:55 am EDT (Viewed 126 times)
Reply Subj: Re: So far 300,000+ signatures requesting that antifa be called a terrorist group by The White House (edited)
Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 at 04:42:15 am EDT (Viewed 135 times)



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    That may be what the terms mean. But just the words taken exactly as they are meant.



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    Black pride
    White Pride



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    The difference is ONLY White and Black. If it has become something else in daily use then ok. But just taken as they are...should be seen as essentially the same thing. Pride for White or Black.


No, these words should not be "seen as essentially the same thing" precisely because words ALWAYS have to be taken in context. Actually, words have no meaning divorced from context. Take the words "gay" and "queer" which mean something very different from what they meant in a different context, say the first half of the 20th century. "Black Pride" is about signifying the importance of a black culture that has experienced a long history of oppression. "White Pride" is about promoting white supremacy over other races. In contrast, "Black Pride" does not say black people are better than white people, just that black people are not the stereotypes whites have long cast them as.


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    I find it somewhat telling that there seems to be an issue when someone asks me what I am and I say an American/US Citizen. But others are Fill in the blank-American.



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    WTHeck is wrong with just being an American? That people put "Fill-in-the-blank"-American is segregationist.


Nothing is wrong with just being an American, but identifying as a certain demographic of the U.S.A. is not in any way segregationist. I know many Italian-Americans who take pride in their Italian culture. That pride isn't saying they are better than other Americans nor is it saying they no longer want to be Americans nor is it saying they don't want to associate with other Americans. All it's saying is that they take pride in their Italian heritage. So in what sense is it segregationist?


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    Be it a color or a state or a religion...I don't think it should matter if we want to be a unified country accepting of the differences is others.


It shouldn't and it doesn't matter, at least to most people, but it seems to matter to you. There is nothing mutually exclusive between accepting differences and acknowledging or even celebrating differences.