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Subj: Re: NFL and kneeling
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 at 12:42:04 pm EDT (Viewed 138 times)
Reply Subj: NFL and kneeling
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 at 11:43:49 am EDT (Viewed 162 times)



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    Just wondering about everyone's position here.



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    While I sympathize with (Kaepernick's) initial reasoning, I'm not sure I agree with kneeling. Whatever social niggles the US has, the flag and National Anthem are as much to honor those who fought and/or died for the country.

I was thinking about the flag code before it started coming up this week. After 9/11 especially it became popular to wear shirts patterned after the flag, something specifically prohibited by the flag code as "disrespectful." most people didn't care that much because those wearing the shirts simply did it because they loved the flag.

Standing at attention is called for in the flag code during a flag ceremony, so I'd say kneeling would be considered disrespectful in a sense, even though kneeling by definition is showing respect. Their protest is done with humility in honor of their fellow Americans that they feel are being treated unfairly. Right or wrong, their goal is noble so I can't get too worked up about it.

That said, playing the anthem during sporting events has nothing to do with the flag code. The flag code refers to a flag ceremony where you raise the flag and recite the Pledge of Allegiance. Playing the anthem at sports events is merely a tradition which began in baseball.


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    That said, my opinion shifted once Trump weighed in. A President suggesting people be fired (i.e. punished) for kneeling during the National Anthem makes it a direct case of government interfering with freedom of speech, something those same soldiers fought and died defending.

Doesn't he have bigger fish to fry? It's such a petty use of his time.