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zvelf

Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
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Rutro

Member Since: Fri Jan 16, 2009
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Subj: Re: NFL and kneeling
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 at 04:00:18 pm EDT (Viewed 65 times)
Reply Subj: Re: NFL and kneeling
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 at 01:47:56 pm EDT (Viewed 72 times)



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    An unneeded battle it would seem for Trump but sometimes I wonder if it's on purpose. It's almost like he's trying to always keep his base wound up.


That's precisely what Trump is doing. He doesn't have quantity of voters on his side, so he keeps upping the intensity of his voters to make up for it.


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    At least he only suggested what the NFL should do, unlike the previous administration which actually used the power of the govt to go after the Wash Redskins trademark and ended up getting rebuked by an unanimous decision from the Supreme Court.


This is just wrong and misleading. The Obama administration did not use "the power of the government to go after the Washington Redskins." A group of Native Americans did. The Obama administration wouldn't even have cause as they would have to prove harm. When asked his opinion, Obama simply stated that were he the owner of the team, he would consider changing the name because it offends many Native Americans. Next, the Supreme Court never heard a case on the Washington Redskins. They heard a related trademark case whose ruling would affect the Redskins case. So since the Supreme Court, a) never heard the Redskins case in the first place, and b) the Obama administration wasn't involved in the such a case, the Supreme Court couldn't rebuke them for it.


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    I bet the guy at Google, who got fired for espousing his views on company time - same thing NFL players are doing, is wondering where all the 'free speech' defenders were then. Of course he has as much right to express his private views on company time as the NFL players do - zero.


First, people express private views on company time all the time. Any water cooler talk about a tv show or a sports game are examples. Second, the Google guy, James Damore, did have some "free speech" defenders on his side. Third, your analogy is not apt. The NFL players started the protesting in response to a wave of police shooting of unarmed black men. The Google guy recommended bias against women in Google's hiring practices. In terms of appearances and of being offensive, protesting against racism and advocating against hiring women are two very different things for a company's public face. Fourth, Google has a policy in which staff have communal input on the promotions of other staff, and so anyone who admits to a gender bias puts that bias into Google's promotions. Can you imagine what it would be like to be a woman who is getting evaluations by James Damore? Hence, Google rightfully fired him.




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