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atrimus

Location: Saint Louis, MO
Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
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bd2999

Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
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Subj: Re: Not sure you have been paying much attention...
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 at 02:30:41 pm EDT (Viewed 100 times)
Reply Subj: Not sure you have been paying much attention...
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 at 01:06:58 pm EDT (Viewed 120 times)



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    that sounds harsher than intended but that sort of stuff started the first day. Into the next day. Everything is politicized. Every damn thing.


I've often wondered when did it get like this. It's like NFL players kneeling. I've lost count of the times I've heard people say players need to leave politics off the field, but to me, protesting how cops treat blacks is a matter of human rights, not politics. The same's the case with mass shootings; it stops being politics when people start dying.


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      Every time some act of gun violence or some terrible mass shooting happens, we either get the media or some political pundits who start to call for stricter gun laws, or who are going to start bashing the NRA, etc. I'm wondering how long this will take. So far, luckily, it seems that people have been focusing on mourning the victims and praising the police. I hope that this remains the case. But I'm sure that it's just a matter of time before this starts.



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    I am confused as to why you think this is a bad thing? Those mostly making the case for politicization etc. are usually those that usually are just using the excuse to kick the can.



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    Many of the same ones were happy to politicize 9/11 and other events for their own well being. Right and left is guilty of this but I do not see why the pro-gun crowd gets off the hook here. The NRA for instance has some pretty insane ideas at this point that are not based on much more than folks fantasy beliefs and fear.



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      Also, in regards to this case, how did he manage to keep 23 (Was it 23?) guns in a hotel room? Did he never leave the room? Doesn't housekeeping check everything? It sounds kind of strange that he would be able to stockpile in a hotel room, especially in Vegas? Do they not check your stuff? I'm sure that things will change after this.



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    Unless they had metal detectors coming into the place it would not be that hard. The bags would be heavy. And just put the do not disturb sign on the door. Or keep them in the bags. It does not seem too crazy.



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    Really, if you cannot talk about ways from stopping stuff like this from happening again or reducing it not long after than it will not happen. That is our attention span at this point.



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    But, we will not get anything out of this. Not even anything minor. If a school full of kids getting killed does not do much than nothing ever will. People's right to own guns or the march towards unrestricted access is more important than people's lives.


If anything these shootings seem to have the effect of making people buy more guns. Apparently bump stocks are now selling out.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/stephen-paddock-bump-stock-gun-sales-las-vegas-shooting-latest-a7983741.html






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