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bd2999

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Norvell

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Subj: Re: So the tax bill is going to pass.
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 at 08:35:48 am EST (Viewed 175 times)
Reply Subj: So the tax bill is going to pass.
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 at 08:43:37 am EST (Viewed 201 times)



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    The Reverse Robbin Hood Bill (robbing from the poor to give to the rich) is going pass. It's going to add a trillion dollars to the debt, it's going to raise taxes on the Middle Class, increase the cost of healthcare, and any benefit to the Middle Class is short-lived and will expire.



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    Sounds like a sweetheart deal for Republican donors. Trump voters, who largely rely on government benefits, who are the largest beneficiaries of Obamacare, and who wanted a president who looked out for their interests... just got snookered.



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    Watch in the post-Trump era, when a Democrat gets elected, when the Republicans again begin to worry about the debt. Gotta tighten that government belt by reducing government benefits (e.g. Social Security).


They are already sort of talking like that now for Democratic priorities that should be all of them.

Sherrod Brown and Orrin Hatch were on the floor talking about funding CHIP, that ran out two or so months ago. Hatch said that they need to pay for it the right way and cover the $16 billion dollar price tag but we are broke at the moment.

This despite decreasing revenue byt $1 trillion dollars or more.

It is for sure ironic in that they do not see the cruelty in a fair bit of this. And many of the concessions the moderate or a few of the fiscal hawks got to earn their vote were pretty much jokes. Promises that cannot be made.

Collins wanted the one ACA repair bill to come to the floor for a vote. Even assuming it passes it would need to make it through the House and then get Trump to sign it. And even then, it restores the insurance support system that Trump axed. It would nothave any impact on repealing the individual mandate.

Which was a core piece of keeping the system together in the first place.

The whole thing is a joke really. A very very bad joke that they did not put much thought into. It is also a shame that this is what things have come down to. Passing major tax policy for the country through reconcilliation votes along party lines while shutting the other party out.

The GOP complained about that sort of thing for the ACA. However, there were numerous bipartisan panels for at least a year before. The Dems tried to do everything to get somebody on board and gave up a fair bit for nothing really. All in bad faith. And that was through proper channels. It passed through regular order. Outside of a fix at the end that did use the reconcilliation process.

I guess any way you can get money to the richest is what they want in the end.




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