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zvelf

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Comicguy1

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Subj: Re: Is It Possible To Separate The Art From The Artist?
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 at 01:21:01 pm EST (Viewed 131 times)
Reply Subj: Is It Possible To Separate The Art From The Artist?
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 at 02:39:04 pm EST (Viewed 205 times)



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    I'm just wondering, with all of these sexual harassment allegations (Which I don't entirely believe.) coming out against musicians, entertainers, actors, etc, is it possible to enjoy their work after these alleged accusations?


We already had this discussion on this board in October, so I'll just repeat myself:

I have no problem admiring the work of very bad people. I can detest the person but love the art. Roman Polanski engaged in statutory rape, but Chinatown is a masterpiece of cinematic art regardless. Pablo Picasso was a womanizer, but Les Demoiselles d'Avignon and Guernica are still amazing. Richard Wagner was an anti-Semite and racist, but the Ring Cycle contains some of the greatest music ever written. If art had to be evaluated based on the personality or morality of the artist, then art wouldn't make sense anymore.All people have flaws, and the more you learn about someone the more flaws you will uncover. So when you go to a museum, can you only evaluate everything you see only after you go digging through the artists' personal lives. Only after declaring the artist a good person, are you allowed to like or dislike the work? That would be absurd. And if the outside behavior of the artist affects the judgment of the artist's work, shouldn't your own behavior compromise you as a judge? If you murdered somebody, wouldn't it be hypocritical for you to judge a work poorly because the artist murdered somebody? Then are only morally good people allowed to judge art? But how good are you or I really?


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    I would say that Kevin Spacey (If everything turns out to be true.) and Louis C.K are tougher to overlook.


Spacey, yes, but Louis C.K.? What he did was extremely gross and sick but he didn't even touch the women. Is Louis C.K. really worse than John Besh, Bill Cosby, Andrew Kreisberg, Brett Ratner, and James Toback?


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    I certainly don't think that shows, movies, etc should be canceled just because of some allegations. After all, OTHER people worked on those shows and films as well. And a HECK of a lot of musicians have had legal problems, but their music still sells. So yes, I think that might be what we need to start doing.


I think it's perfectly fine for people to boycott work/shows/movies for whatever reason they want. It's their money. The business people who work on shows and movies that they cancelled obviously see their names or brands being tarnished by producing work associated with sexual harassers. That's their right too. I do think politicians need to be held up to a higher standard. They represent the people and you shouldn't be doing that if you have a history of sexual harassment.




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