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Subj: Re: Are we about to see a constitutional crisis?
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 at 12:21:02 pm EST (Viewed 174 times)
Reply Subj: Are we about to see a constitutional crisis?
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 at 11:28:26 am EST (Viewed 207 times)
Quote:Trump is probably going to pardon Flynn, among others, and his supporters are urging him to dissolve the Russian investigation. Flynn was given a deal to provide prosecutory ammo on a bigger fish, and the number of fish bigger than Flynn can be counted on like two fingers.
Probably, it is not entirely clear yet what will be done here. It still seems that no actions will be taken at the moment, just because it looks even worse if he pardon's somebody guilty of acting against the US at varying points. He got off light for a reason.
The drums to end the probe are getting louder. Particularly after the anti-Trump text messages between two investigators. I am not sure why this makes much of a difference. They were removed and that was the right thing but they were never the only people working on the whole thing. And government employees are allowed to have political opinions. I imagine that one could find all manner of opinions if you checked through all communications.
So long as the evidence is sound, things are fine. It is a joke really. The whole political system is almost designed to be beyond corrupt at this point. I just want to imagine that if this was president Clinton if the GOP would be fighting tooth and nail to protect her like they are Trump. I tend to doubt it.
Quote:I think a constitutional crisis is all-but-inevitable. The train is coming, and we're running out of tracks. The real question is, on which side will Republicans break? These aren't the Republicans of the Nixon era who put country over party.
True, I do think it is coming. Trump has already shown interest, and some conservatives backing him, of turning the FBI and other DOJ resources into a police force for his own using. That should scare people.
I did read an interesting article this morning that mentioned the Nixon Republicans. Many at that point still supported the guy to differing degrees. However, one was exposed to the news at that point. It was hard to deny reality.
At this point, if one wants to be an ideological purity than it is fairly easy to lock oneself in an echo chamber. You never see political realities again outside of the lens. I found that to be interesting and true.
Quote:"It doesn't matter to them that Mueller is a decorated combat Marine, professional prosecutor, and — ahem — Republican who has been universally revered for his probity. No less an authority than Newt Gingrich said on May 17: "Robert Mueller is superb choice to be special counsel. His reputation is impeccable for honesty and integrity." But now that Mueller is closing in on Trump, Gingrich scoffs, "How can you seriously say this guy (Mueller) is neutral?" and claims: "At the very top, the Justice Department and the FBI became corrupted.""
Oh, somebody is liked until they start doing things that seem to be against you. Most of these same people were all for varying political witch hunts against Obama or Clinton. Some with reason and most carried on long past a conclusion for political ends.
The irony is pretty strong. It is also pretty bad that despite very real threats to our election system that Trump has taken no actions at all to address any of it. He looks at it as an insult to his win. He has formed a commission to prove that he won the popular vote or to look into voter fraud though. You know, the real issue...
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