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Subj: Re: Can Anyone Clear This Up For Me: The Leader And His History, Or Rather His History AFTER Hulk #400.
Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 at 10:14:27 pm EDT (Viewed 176 times)
Reply Subj: Can Anyone Clear This Up For Me: The Leader And His History, Or Rather His History AFTER Hulk #400.
Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 at 06:36:04 pm EDT (Viewed 168 times)
Here's my take on the Leader, post-400:
-Omnibus was just crazy and not truly possessed by the Leader.
-Neither the Leader's appearance during Jenkins' run nor his appearance during Jones' run actually happened. Outside of one background image in the Warbound mini-series, I don't think the Leader's form in either of those runs was ever mentioned again. As such, it's really easy to write off those appearances as Nightmare hallucinations.
-Despite that, the Leader did bring himself back somehow in Dan Slott's She-Hulk series. How it was done was never explained. As lazy as I find that to be, that's how he came back.
-Whatever brought the Leader back didn't do a great job, since he started dying again by the Warbound miniseries (post-World War Hulk). Somewhere between that series and his next appearance, he found a way to stabilize his condition.
-Maybe the revolving door of death had something to do with the Intelligencia. It was revealed during World War Hulks that a group of supervillains had been saving each other off-screen, and the Leader was part of that group.
-The Red Hulk magically took the Leader's powers away. Following this, the Punisher killed the Leader. The Red Hulk then brought him back to life because reasons, and he became a red-skinned supergenius for a while.
-During his adventures as part of the Red Hulk's Thunderbolts, the Leader outwitted Mephisto on a contract. By the end of the series, though, Mephisto renegotiated and forced the Leader to suffer in Hell for a while.
-During the Doc Green days, a red-skinned Leader was apparently free from Hell (maybe he re-re-negotiated?) and lost his powers to the Hulk. However, the Hulk's rogue AI then gave the Leader back his original powers, so we now have the original, green-skinned Leader again.
-Of course, none of that matters, because Marvel Crisis-ed up their universe, so continuity isn't really a thing anymore. (See also: Doc Samson coming back to life for no reason, or Bruce Banner experimenting on himself with gamma radiation in Civil War 2 despite explicitly not doing that in a comic released the exact same month.)
Essentially, the Leader's history is really hard to follow because nobody has even made an attempt to actually explain what's going on. Instead, his status changes whenever a writer feels the need. Since mainstream comics now veer from one crossover event to the next while resembling a series of connected serial stories less and less, that's probably not going to change.
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