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The Mandarin

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Grey Gargoyle

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Subj: Absolute freedom is an oligarchy
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 at 04:37:15 pm EDT (Viewed 141 times)
Reply Subj: Roman von Ungern-Sternberg
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 at 01:19:19 pm EDT (Viewed 136 times)

    It doesn't mean that his ideal civilization would be a lawless jungle. An empire is a social order, an unjust one but a social order, nevertheless.

    They were all trying to become dictators, indeed preying on the weak but through an unjust social order, not through radical libertarianism.

Here's the thing I've come to realize via listening to Ayn Rand worshipers both in real life and on Fox News rant endlessly about their desire for freedom from regulation: absolute freedom is an oligarchy ruled by the strong.

Real freedom in an adult context requires a great deal of regulation. Ayn Randites don't want real freedom in an adult context. They want an absolutely free jungle in which they are the de facto oligarchy because they have more power than anyone else.

Thus do I think The Mandarin is very much in keeping with the sort of Ayn Rand worshiper one might see on Fox News: someone who wants the absolute freedom of the strong to prey on the weak by using their strength to create a de facto oligarchy. What they believe in really, is a form of social darwinism, but it is distinct from Apocalypse's form of social darwinism in that it sees oligarchy as the natural and preferred result of freedom.

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