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Alexandre Juliao

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The Mandarin

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Subj: Re: The Nuttty Professor, the Iron Man movie, and the Stark/MJ first meeting scene
Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 at 10:09:06 am EDT (Viewed 65 times)
Reply Subj: The Nuttty Professor, the Iron Man movie, and the Stark/MJ first meeting scene
Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2017 at 03:35:52 pm EDT (Viewed 76 times)



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    In "The Nutty Professor", Sherman Klump is a lonely, socially awkward fat man who invents something that makes him superficially handsome, and socially confident. However, doing this doesn't solve his loneliness. He's now someone who can have shallow women if he wanted them, but he can't get a woman worth having because he hasn't fundamentally improved. He's really just gone from a shy kind of awkward to an obnoxious kind of awkward. The woman who can see through this doesn't like his new persona, and that's the only woman he actually wants.



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    The first Iron Man movie plays with similar tropes. Stark begins as a sort of blend of Sherman Klump and Buddy Love. He's an obnoxious playboy, but it's clear from his interactions with Pepper that the playboy thing is a mask, and underneath it is a rather shy inventor who's secretly in love with Pepper. The playboy act is a mask, and he isn't really interested in the women who fall for the mask beyond one-night-stands. Tony Stark is lonely, palpably so whenever he's alone with Pepper.



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    The scene between Stark and Watson plays with similar tropes. Stark here comes across as a lonely inventor who's learned a few one-liners that mostly work just because he's rich. He's doesn't really like the women this facade works on, because underneath he's basically a Sherman Klump type, and he knows that falling for the facade isn't really the same as loving the real him, is in fact almost the polar opposite.



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    That's why that scene worked for me, and is why I found the dislike for it from some members of the board baffling. The movie was approved of overwhelmingly. So why don't you like a scene that imports similar characterization to the comic?



That analogy is perfect. In fact, I think it's even more perfect than you realize.

Eddie Murphy's "The Nutty Professor" movie you mentioned, is a shallow and dumbed down version of the far superior Jerry Lewis's original 1963 comedy, and that's exactly what Bendis does when he tries to emulate the MCU Tony Stark without understanding what makes that character work. A shallow and dumbed down version of a far superior character.

And that's exactly why our dislike for that scene is not baffling at all. It's just a natural reaction to what Bendis has been doing for several years, which is to take advantage of the fame of much better versions of famous characters, writing second-rate imitations of them. And the same goes for the way he wrote MJ in that issue.

Besides, that's not at all how Tony and MJ met for the first time. Bendis himself mentioned the correct way in the previous volume.