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Reverend Meteor

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The Mandarin

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Subj: Re: Mandarin stories should begin with the premise that he's already won
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 at 02:41:45 pm EST (Viewed 166 times)
Reply Subj: Mandarin stories should begin with the premise that he's already won
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 at 05:08:21 pm EST (Viewed 180 times)




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    The Mandarin shouldn't need to conquer the world. The Mandarin won a long time ago. Thanks to things like Citizens United legalizing bribery, and gerrymandering allowing the control of state politics simply by corrupting the leadership of the one dominate party in each state, the Mandarin should have won via bribery and corruption a long time ago. The Mandarin should be the reason why laws with even 90% approval don't get passed when they conflict with the desires of rich corporations.


Ugh. So he's the guy in the story that gets to say I'm the reason the world sucks. I keep the metric system down and keep health care costs high. Just ugh.

I hate stories like that. They've been doing it during Mr. Robot (particularly this season when they hinted the Black Army from China put Trump in power)

The villain already won shtick doesn't work in stories set in the modern era IMO. The world is crap. We know that. We don't need a villain to take credit for making it that way from the shadows. It's just such lazy storytelling.

Now if it's a story set in the distant past, distant future, or somewhere in space a villain imposing their will like that looks impressive. But we already know the current world is shit. Some guy taking credit for all of it just seems dumb and has really been done to death.

(at least in Network Arthur Jensen made it more complicated than just one guy is running the world)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI5hrcwU7Dk


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    As such, trying to conquer the world outright should be portrayed as just a minor hobby of his. He already rules the world in every way that matters. Attempting to get that last little dollop of power via conquest is just for funsies.


It seems to ridiculous to give that to the Mandarin. The Kingpin maybe. Or Red Skull. Mandarin's *cough* a little further down the villain food chain.



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    Furthermore, since he's been at that hobby a long time, maybe it's time he got bored with it, and switched to hurting Stark in small, personal, disturbing ways. Creepy things, like stealing the ghostbuster gizmo Stark invented for the Nightstalkers, and modifying it to torture ghosts. And then digging up Howard Stark's bones, summoning his spirit, and torturing Howard Stark via technology stolen from Tony Stark.






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