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Grey Gargoyle

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Reverend Meteor

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Subj: Re: There is no precedent.
Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 at 11:32:37 am EST (Viewed 120 times)
Reply Subj: Re: There is no precedent.
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 at 10:20:45 am EST (Viewed 123 times)



    Quote:
    So one parent's Chinese (Han?) the other parent is English and on his father's side he's descended from a Mongol?


I suggested that his father's family was Manchu, not Chinese Han.

The Mandarin's relatives were probably very influent before the Chinese Revolution.

Back then, the country was ruled by the Manchu Qing dynasty of the Aisin Gioro clan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qing_dynasty
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisin_Gioro
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empress_Xiaohuizhang
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empress_Dowager_Xiaozhuang
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borjigin#Empress_of_the_Qing_dynasty

The Aisin Gioro and Borjigit clans (= the clan of Genghis Khan) had a long history of political marriages, so the emperor had to choose a Borjigit woman to be his empress consort in order to keep up with tradition.

Some of the Mandarin's ancestors might have been Khorchin Mongols. They were the first Mongol tribe that submitted to Qing dynasty. The later emperors of the Manchu Qing dynasty rewarded the Khorchin nobles highly for this early loyalty.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khorchin_Mongols
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qasar

Let's suppose that some of the Mandarin's relatives were mandarins during the reign of the Qing Dynasty before the Chinese Revolution, it would explain the nickname.


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