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Subj: Re: One of the worst enemies of Iron Man, a well-known name among fans and, yet, often forgotten as one of the greatest foes ...
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 at 03:46:33 pm EST (Viewed 177 times)
Reply Subj: Re: One of the worst enemies of Iron Man, a well-known name among fans and, yet, often forgotten as one of the greatest foes ...
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 at 02:52:57 pm EST (Viewed 197 times)




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      I think Roxxon like Hammer make perfect enemies of Stark.

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        They are the dark side and truthfully more realistic real-world evil empires as opposed to Starks empire of companies being of the most noble bent.



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    Add in Alchemax for the triptych. I am 100% in favor of Tony regularly fighting these three evil corporations.



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    If arch enemies are supposed to be dark reflections of the hero, then these three evil corporations, being dark reflections of Stark Industries (or whatever the right name is nowadays) are tailor made to be arch enemies of Iron Man.


But Tony Stark isn't a corporation.


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    Who does Captain America fight? Most iconically, in my opinion, he fights HYDRA and other such dark reflections of SHIELD. Consider the name of that agency. SHIELD. Consider the fact that Captain America often fought alongside Nick Fury and other agents of that proud entity. Cap's greatest enemies are not individuals. They're evil collectives.


Captain America is supposed to represent an idea, so his enemies should maybe represent opposing ideas.


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    Spider-Man's greatest enemies are individuals. And that is exactly as it should be. That's what makes him Spider-Man. Everything is always about the individual with him.


Iron Man and Captain America should also be about the individuals at least to the point of figuring where individuals fit into a collective.




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    Iron Man is more like Captain America. In fact they go together like chocolate and peanut butter. Like Cap, I think Iron Man is at his most iconic when he's fighting evil collectives, which, in Iron Man's case. would most organically be evil corporations.



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    Now this still leaves plenty of room for costumed super-villains. These guys would simply be hired by the corporations. I mean, let's face it, costumed super-villains are almost always hired by somebody.


Those supervillains would just become hired hands. That would mean, especially in Shellhead's case, the book would be a rich Knight fighting peasants that work for anonymous rich guys.


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      Now I know Mandarin would say this is boring and all corporate intrigue...but if you present it more like empires and delve deeply into the people it affects and so on I see some great stories that could be told.



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    Definitely. Warren Ellis is doing a two year maxi-series for DC titled "Wildstorm" which is a masterful take on evil corporations that have used their super-wealth to dominate on a global (or even greater) scale. There is nothing the least bit boring about this maxi-series. Quite the opposite. It's one of the best things on the shelves right now.



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      Don't focus on all the board meetings...



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    Agreed. Unless someone will be shot in the head at the meeting. Then, fine.



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      ...focus on the destruction and world dominating plots of Roxxon and Hammer...and Tony fighting them behind the scenes or in the public light with his technical genius + his corporate assets which include a star supporting cast like Dave and Bob had for us.



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    See "Wildstorm" for how to set this all up for exciting action and intrigue.







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