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USAgentfan

Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
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fnh

Subj: Re: Fractions War Journal.
Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 at 06:56:23 pm EST (Viewed 257 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Fractions War Journal.
Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 at 04:36:16 pm EST (Viewed 245 times)





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    True, other heroes may have killed innocents by accidents but they aren't Frank Castle. It goes completely against his character and would completely invalidate why he become the Punisher in the first place.


See this is the bit I dont get.

If its just a personal choice of yours then fine, but to dislike it on the principle that you think its out of character is frankly inaccurate. Frank has been successfully brainwashed on a number of occasions, as have heroes who would probably be considered mentally tougher than him such as Cap and Logan. Logan in fact is the worst offender because despite being specially training to resist brainwashing he has killed literally dozens if not hundreds whilst under the control of others.

If youre telling me that you just dont like the fact Frank has succumbed to control then fine, but if youre saying that it ruins the story because you think its completely impossible for frank to be successfully brainwashed then thats just ridiculous. He does afterall have more of a history with mental illness and loss of control than most characters out there.

Also, 'hate beams' if anything should have a more profound effect on someone like Frank who is literally full to the brim with a variety of hate. Cap - who hasnt got an ounce of hate in him probably wouldnt have broken a sweat.


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    Oh and Wolverine's a caricature who's killed more innocents in his "un-brainwashed" state than most villians have done in their lifetime.


I'm not debating the morality of either character - theyre both pretty much screwed if god exists regardless as to how much they might try and repent between now and the end. Its going to be impossible for either of them to balance the books - Frank of course doesnt care about that and has already told god to stuff it once.




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