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Subj: Re: CBR addressed the comic book legend about that page once
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 at 08:24:46 pm EST (Viewed 134 times)
Reply Subj: Re: CBR addressed the comic book legend about that page once
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 at 12:15:37 am EST (Viewed 155 times)



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    However with all the reboots/retcons, I think we have the Bronze age Vision back, don't we?


Not that I'm aware of. If he's not in love with Wanda then he's not the Bronze Age Vision. But there was more to it than that. The Bronze Age Vision was always in search of who he was and what his existence meant. He was trying to understand the nature of emotion and what it could possibly mean to have a soul (or not have one). He was trying to come to terms with being one of a kind in the world and not being a biological entity. I don't think we've seen any of that in decades except during the Busiek run and maybe just prior - I don't know. And then came Bendis.

I didn't like the Busiek run but I give him credit for presenting a recognizable Vision. I don't know if he inherited that version or established it himself.


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    However I still applaud that storyline as it did give us the return of the original Torch as I remembered reading Vision learning his origin from Immortus and wondering just why was Immortus being so kind and that I smelled a long term plan of some kind, as well as the scent of a rat in the form of Immortus.


I can't stand the idea that the Vision was the Torch. Why would anyone go there? The Torch and the Vision are two different characters. Why try to make them one and the same?

I just don't understand why we needed any of this weird garbage. The Vision was the Vision. He was made by Ultron and contrary to Ultron's expectations he had emotions. He could have aligned with his maker but instead turned against him and aligned with the Avengers. Contrary to anyone's expectations, he fell in love. That's all we ever needed to know.


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    As to Wanda loving the Vision yet not loving Wonder Man for so long, that also made little sense to me. Vision's mind is Simon Williams brain waves copied into Vision's brain circuits so in effect he was Simon Williams, albeit a copied version that lived his life in an android form, then the original version is mutated into a super hero yet still has the same emotions and thought processes for the most part so Simon loving Wanda made sense.


The Vision was absolutely not Simon Williams in a plastic body. Their personalities were light years apart. The Vision's closest personality analogue is the Silver Surfer. Simon's closest personality analogue is Warren Worthington.







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