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Subj: Re: CBR addressed the comic book legend about that page once
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 at 06:05:39 pm EST (Viewed 137 times)
Reply Subj: Re: CBR addressed the comic book legend about that page once
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 at 04:26:37 pm EST (Viewed 130 times)



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    I don't think that's fair to say.



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    Stern already had the Englehart retcon of Vision being the Human Torch to work with but this was before the Byrne retconning of that retcon.


So now I hate Steve Englehart's role in this too!


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    So at that point time I think it would safe to say Phineas Horton did most of the reformatting of Human Torch into Vision as stated in Avengers #135 but one of Ultron's contribution was this control chip...which was neither a part of Jim when Phineas originally created him or when Phineas reformatted him into the Vision per Ultron's threats. I would say the control chip was something Phineas wouldn't have created and it just wasn't his tech.


I give up. The level of retcons here in impenetrable. And none of it was necessary. Not one bit of it.

Englehart - Stern - Byrne - Roy Thomas's character didn't need your help.






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