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Reverend Meteor

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Grey Gargoyle

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Subj: Re: Satan confusion. When was he Mephisto, Marduk or Lucifer?
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 at 03:30:57 pm EST (Viewed 126 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Satan confusion. When was he Mephisto, Marduk or Lucifer?
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 at 02:05:51 pm EST (Viewed 161 times)


      So who was the Satan that appeared in the Marvel Spotlight, Son of Satan and early Ghost Rider appearances?

    For lack of a better answer, I will say Mephisto.

    He was, without a doubt, involved in the lives of Zarathos, Johnny Blaze & Centurious.

    Still, Satan being Marduk or Mephisto is a retcon.

    In his first appearances, Satan was a new character, different from Mephisto. When Satan appeared in the Ghost-Rider, Defenders & Son of Satan series during the Bronze Age, he was supposed to be the same character.

For the most part I'm fine with not every version of Satan being the same guy.

But I feel like when Gary Friedrich used them in Marvel Spotlight, Ghost Rider and Son of Satan they were clearly intended to be the same guy and a retcon should not exist that splits them into different characters as that does not seem to be the author's intent (like I said the Hellstorm Marvel Spotlight issue crossed over with the Ghost Rider issues where Satan was involved in the story).

The demon that claimed to be Hellstorm's father should absolutely be the same demon that turned Johnny Blaze into Ghost Rider. That was clearly what Gary Friedrich was going for.

    It was revealed later that Satan was an alias shared by multiple Hell-Lords.

    Marduk being one of the Hell-Lords and the father of Daimon is an idea from the Hellstorm series. It is another retcon.

And I don't like it...but I don't like Mephisto being involved either.

I just wish they would say "hey your dad is Satan but he's really a lot lower down the totem pole than you think".

    It is very hard to track what could be the first appearance of Lucifer.
    I remember him appearing in a Daredevil issue pencilled by John Romita Jr. In the same issue, Mephisto appeared as a separate character but this version of Lucifer was very different from the current portrayal.

    A simple explanation would be that they all are avatars of the same abstract entity ("we are legion").

don't like that explanation either.

I just want the Gary Friedrich version (not that many appearances really) to consistently be the same demon every time. Every time someone else wants to use Satan it's just not the same guy.

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