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Menshevik

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Subj: Re: How "relevant" do you want your comics?
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 at 03:28:27 am EST (Viewed 51 times)
Reply Subj: Re: How "relevant" do you want your comics?
Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 at 09:35:33 pm EST (Viewed 63 times)



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      To put it bluntly, nobody appointed you the censor of my reading matter. You're not THE paying customer, you one of several (potential) paying customers, and as an individual you and I pay too little. It might be different for us if we had enough money to commission an artistic team to write and draw the kind of story we like. Until that happens, if you don't like a certain writer's output the only solution open to you is to stop buying it, not to ask for the creation of a new Comics Code to impose your idiosyncratic tastes on other readers who don't share them. I mean, you're asking for comics to be so bowdlerized in some respects that they'll be less "relevant" than fairy tales (just think of how many of those feature e.g. child abuse).



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    Well, I'll make the obvious statement that talking about what we do or don't want isn't the same as calling for censorship. Certainly we can (and in my opinion should) stop buying any comic that displeases us. I do it all the time, sometimes for the most trivial of reasons.


Sorry for the misunderstanding.


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    What's interesting (to me) is the idea that superhero comics that center around things like Spider-Man stopping bank robberies would be bowdlerized if they didn't feature things like child abuse. I can see there's a level of soap opera that some of us want in comics while others of us (or at least I) don't. It also interests me (and frankly just occurred to me) that I don't watch TV shows or movies that delve into that level of soap opera. So really I'm just not a fan of that type of story in any medium. The exception would be vengeance tales. Those I like.


"To bowdlerize" means to remove content considered vulgar, unsuitable for children or otherwise objectionable from works of literature, especially from already existing ones. Since superhero comics have contained stuff that violate your taboos for a long time, in some cases since the 1960s at least, I think the word can be applied here.

In the case of Spider-Man you e.g. have child abuse in Flash Thompson's biography, drug addiction in Harry Osborn's story. Alcohol and drugs are recurring subjects even in comics written for children under rules as strict as the Comics Code in the 1930s and 40s, like Hergé's Tintin.

You say you prefer stories and characters larger than life, to me they sound like "more divorced from reality and humanity" and in fact in danger of becoming formulaic and boring. Not everyone has the same tastes...




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